Jesse66126 4 Report post Posted February 12, 2009 My goal in this post is to revolutionize RPG stereotypes and make them a thing of the past. From now on,no more girl clerics,priests,or healers of any kind in rpgs! Men will do all the healing, okay?I've had enough of the helpless,pretty girls in rpgs who only can heal and can't fight worth beans!Also,let's have the guy get kidnapped for once! No more saving the princess! I have yet to see a game where Link gets kidnapped and Zelda has to rescue him! I want to see some change in modern rpg games. As far as women being the main healers,that hasn't changed since the first Final Fantasy.Seriously,haven't you guys had enough of that? Another thing,about that symbolic red bandana of power and leadership.Let's put it on someone besides the main character,like third supporting character,the one you'd probably give the green bandana to. Order of Leadership Authority "usually": Red>blue>green. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesse66126 4 Report post Posted February 12, 2009 Any thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Polraudio 122 Report post Posted February 12, 2009 I dont agree cause there's guy healers in RPG's. I seen quiet a lot of them. Most rpg's now days have it where you can chose what your character does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nisage 31 Report post Posted February 12, 2009 True, there have been some male healers, but mostly female. But I've seen a mix, it used to be where the swordsman were only male, now there are some female swordman (or would they be called swordswoman?) At least let the female healers have an attack skill or 2, make it more original then the classic they only have healing skills and have little attack power. I do have an rpg game where the healer has some attack skills, then again it's an alchemy game. And besides, no more female healers, dont think that'll happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Polraudio 122 Report post Posted February 12, 2009 True, there have been some male healers, but mostly female. But I've seen a mix, it used to be where the swordsman were only male, now there are some female swordman (or would they be called swordswoman?) At least let the female healers have an attack skill or 2, make it more original then the classic they only have healing skills and have little attack power. I do have an rpg game where the healer has some attack skills, then again it's an alchemy game. The only game that i know that does that is Starocean 2. but at least you can customize your character more in them games. There is a good example on non-girl healers. Except one but everyone else is a attacker. There is a guy healer to. So its not in most RPG's, I think girl healers are a thing of the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nisage 31 Report post Posted February 12, 2009 That's so sad, that female healers are a thing of the past. I'm going to miss the classic rpgs :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bahamut 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2009 Play FFX-2 and knock yourself out of girl power! Actually it is one of my favorite FFs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesse66126 4 Report post Posted February 12, 2009 Play FFX-2 and knock yourself out of girl power! Actually it is one of my favorite FFs. FF X-2 was an epic failure though. The storyline was horrible and the ending was worse. My favorite quote from the game. -Yuna:"I guess it wasn't you after all..." You're thinking,no Tidus??? WHAT?? We've been searching for 60+ hours and there's no Tidus?? Course I knew that the moment I looked at the credits in the back of the hand book. Tidus isn't listed on the characters' voices list. Any true FFX fan knows Tidus and Auron were dead before the game even started,there's no way Yuna would find them unless she went to the Farplain. Darn it!You guys got me off subject!! Anyway,I've been playing online games a while and I've discovered something. 95% of priests on online games are female. Whether or not they're actually being played by a girl,I don't know,but it's a fact that some stereotypes are true. In a study of infants ages 1-3,scientists discovered that given the choice,the boys went to play with the monster truck toys,and the girls went to play with the dolls and fake jewelry. I think some of it has to do with instinct or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nisage 31 Report post Posted February 12, 2009 Then play Arcana Heart, there are only female fighters you can play as. Yeah it's a fighting game, but still fun. I lost and haven't beat it yet. Picture and Wiki site link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcana_Heart It's for the ps2 as far as I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiriashi 117 Report post Posted February 12, 2009 I'm so putting this in my RMXP Beginner's Guide! I agree, and I will make sure I don't ever again use a lot of female healers! I might here and there, but I'm not making a game for a while! I have a tutorial to make, and mini-examples to make for it. ~Kit-kat-iashi~ (Why the h*ll not? :lol:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmilyAnnCoons 7 Report post Posted February 13, 2009 Read my newest novelizations of the Zelda games. They all have Link as a girl =D That'll help you out a bit, and if I could find an artist, I could make it even more obvious by having someone make it into a webcomic. And...shouldn't this go in game discussion? o.O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arkbennett 16 Report post Posted February 13, 2009 Yo Jesse, I gotta correct you on a few things that (surprisingly) nobody has. ??? The first final had a cast of all Male characters - including the white mage. And X-2 is seriously underrated - it's more lovey dovey than X. But it's a romance based game. And I guess you missed over it, but if you play the game right. Tidus can come back. It's in the credits under Tidus/Shuyin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesse66126 4 Report post Posted February 13, 2009 Yo Jesse, I gotta correct you on a few things that (surprisingly) nobody has. ??? The first final had a cast of all Male characters - including the white mage. And X-2 is seriously underrated - it's more lovey dovey than X. But it's a romance based game. And I guess you missed over it, but if you play the game right. Tidus can come back. It's in the credits under Tidus/Shuyin. the white mage had long blond hair and a skirt in her 2nd form on the GBA version. and how do u get the alt. ending to X-2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ratty524 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2009 I can understand how sick of cliches you are, but I'm not going to say get rid of all female healers overall. It all really depends on how you are telling the story. Maybe a female cleric is necessary? You can have one and not be 100% generic with your storyline. Heck, you could probably have a female cleric that has a tough, strong personality as oppose to the meek one that is common. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesse66126 4 Report post Posted February 13, 2009 I can understand how sick of cliches you are, but I'm not going to say get rid of all female healers overall. It all really depends on how you are telling the story. Maybe a female cleric is necessary? You can have one and not be 100% generic with your storyline. Heck, you could probably have a female cleric that has a tough, strong personality as oppose to the meek one that is common. Interesting idea! I could have a cleric who's schetizephrentic like Bulma from Dragon Ball Z. One minute she's angry and knocking a guy out,next she's healing him and apoligizing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arkbennett 16 Report post Posted February 15, 2009 the white mage had long blond hair and a skirt in her 2nd form on the GBA version. and how do u get the alt. ending to X-2? The GBA version is a remake and was *traditionalized*, so to speak, with the white mage being a female. However a guy on a Final Fantasy forum topic mentioned that the white mages name was Tony in the instruction manual, then I found this topic right here, where it's Tomy - short for Tommy perhaps? To revive Tidus, do all this and have 100% complete. "First you'll have to meet with Maechen at Guadosalam in Chapter 3. You'll find him when you meet up with Logos and Ormi in the same area. Next you have to get the ''whistling'' scene with Yuna at the end of Chapter 3. When you're alone in the Farplane, move Yuna around and continually press the X button. You'll hear whistling. That means you have activated the event. Next thing you have to do is get an Episode Complete in Luca during Chapter 5. All you have to do there is visit the location where Tidus taught Yuna how to whistle. Next, get an Episode Complete in Besaid. Finally, once you have beat the game, keep tapping the X button to get the ending." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesse66126 4 Report post Posted February 15, 2009 The GBA version is a remake and was *traditionalized*, so to speak, with the white mage being a female.However a guy on a Final Fantasy forum topic mentioned that the white mages name was Tony in the instruction manual, then I found this topic right here, where it's Tomy - short for Tommy perhaps? To revive Tidus, do all this and have 100% complete. "First you'll have to meet with Maechen at Guadosalam in Chapter 3. You'll find him when you meet up with Logos and Ormi in the same area. Next you have to get the ''whistling'' scene with Yuna at the end of Chapter 3. When you're alone in the Farplane, move Yuna around and continually press the X button. You'll hear whistling. That means you have activated the event. Next thing you have to do is get an Episode Complete in Luca during Chapter 5. All you have to do there is visit the location where Tidus taught Yuna how to whistle. Next, get an Episode Complete in Besaid. Finally, once you have beat the game, keep tapping the X button to get the ending." oh ok now that makes sense.sounds kind of hard though to get Tidus,I mean.sounds almost like a glitch or something lol like in the old cartridge games like in Super Mario World where you press like A,B,A,A,B,X,Y,B,B,Left,right,down,up,left,right and you get a blue yoshi,a cape,and star power. I've never played the actual original FF for NES,only the GBA version.I bought the NES one at a garage sale for $5,but it didn't work so that was a waste. >.> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arkbennett 16 Report post Posted February 15, 2009 Yeah, I know what you mean. I thought it was stupid to do all that stuff without giving any in game hints. If a strat guide never existed, I wonder how long it'd take for anyone to figure that shit out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesse66126 4 Report post Posted February 15, 2009 Yeah, I know what you mean. I thought it was stupid to do all that stuff without giving any in game hints. If a strat guide never existed, I wonder how long it'd take for anyone to figure that shit out. Yeah there's a lot of RPGs like that. If there wasnt a guide for Wild Arms 2,I would of NEVER beat it. There's this one puzzle,I spent THREE YEARS stuck on it! Course the advantage to that was my characters were max leveled,making the rest of the game a breeze,fighting wise. You have to get to this tower on an island. The hint they give you says,"You can't get there by land,boat,or airship." Then you had to unlock a magic teleportation temple that sent you there. There's no way a normal person would've figured that out. Also in Ephermal Fastasia.That's probably the hardest RPG ever.There's no way anyone can beat that game without a guide.It's just impossible. There's very few hints and a giant island,you can EASILY get lost on. I challenge anyone to see if they can beat it without a guide LOL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arkbennett 16 Report post Posted February 16, 2009 Crazy whacko RPGS, what are they thinking? Back on the debate. I don't remember what I voted for, but female stereotypes are okay because normally they're some pretty anime babe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sherry 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 I have yet to see a game where Link gets kidnapped and Zelda has to rescue him! i love the game where you rescue link, i saw it one time in a video Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon 55 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 I don't mind the female-healer combo. Yes, the meek and kind healer is overplayed, but women are kinder than men, an thus the steriotype. Now, if you really want to have fun with a female healer, look at the doctor in Mana Khemia: Student alliance for the psp. Not in your party persay (she runs the infirmery), but if your character passes out in the field of the game, you awaken there, and she's hanging over you. In essence, she says 'i also did other things while you were sleeping'. Imagination is such fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nisage 31 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 Lol, I remember that scene. I have the PS2 Mana Khemia, and the only healer on the team is Jess. But she makes things explode if you watch the cutscenes :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon 55 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 Apparently it is either close to, or the same game. xD it's funny as hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nisage 31 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 I thought the PSP is the same as the PS2 but you can play it on the PSP, and it is funny :P Did you get to the 3 Ghost Stories yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon 55 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 Yeah, jus passed that. Now I am in the damn resource center. Pain in the ass... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nisage 31 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 Sweet, you're going to meet her soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paragan 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2009 Yes there are many clichés - but they are good for one thing - for BREAKING. Sometimes its funny to make situation whitch looks like cliché - and when player think he knows wat will happen do something unexpected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobzombie 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2009 Cliches work well to familiarize a player with a game. The classic bulky male barbarian and meek female healer are classic representations that we all know. I don't think cliches should be broken because they allow us sit down and feel comfortable with a game. Also it does tend to represent the more realistic view point (most nurses are women while most soldiers are male.) However on that note I do agree that breaking cliches is a great way to add some fun and interest to a rpg. What I really want to see is a warrior healer. Great attacks, and support magic but like no defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2009 Not to be sexist here but the whole world here knows that men are stronger and more barbaric that's why they do not heal in most cases. There are alot of rpgs that have guy healers and that's fine but that's why guys are less likely to be healers in games and we all can agree on avg girls tend to be more book smart there for magic fits them because there body's are not met for being strong. Guys and girls have different musicals and a strong girl is only equal to and avg fit guy but a guy who's strong can be 4x or more then that of agv guy strength. But i do see where change is needed people are losing the creativity an copy to much anymore. I mean its hard to be 100% never done but at least try to think of abunch of differnt things that you normaly dont see and use those and If you want a female lead go for it there's nothing wrong having a girl as a leader cuz in most cases they are smarter and will have better judgment anstead of jumping head first in to things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
