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LGBT Material in an All Ages show

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So, I've been thinking about this, and I wanted to see what people's thoughts were as well. Should openly LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transexual for those who don't know) material be allowed in an "All Ages" show/comic/whatever? Examples of all ages shows are: Disney's Aladdin, Pokemon, Digimon, Little Mermaid, and other similar shows. I think that America should cut down on the censoring and such of everything and allow such material to be shown in All Ages shows and such. People are beginning to release kids books that actually talk about being gay and such and no one is making them stop, so why not allowing it in other things? And I mean openly LGBT stuff, not closet stuff like Spongebob >>

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I think it should be aloud.Most people already know it so i would'nt mind.I think they have already done it too in friends, 2 & a half men etc.But i'm not sure if they for all ages.I watch it, my parents do too and they don't mind.

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not closet stuff like Spongebob >>

 

It is actually happening in Spongebob. He took Patrick on a date for Valentines. They acted as a fake married couple.

 

Spongebob does not talk to women often. Sandy is the only girl he talks to sometimes. However Sandy acts like a stereotype Lesbian. She is often working out and knows allot of strength sports. She also never dates any guys. She works out with them as if she is one of them.

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Like I said in your other topic similar to this one, it should not be aloud.

 

Minors should not be exposed to it at an early age. It will only confuse them.

 

There is also the argument of what it will do to that generation. No one can really answer this question because it requires LGBT to be either right, or wrong. So if such things were common and minors were exposed to it like regular relationships, then perhaps a great deal more of that generation will grow up and consider all sexes an option for a relationship.

 

So that is sort of saying if it is in our culture, it will become our culture. But who decides whether that is right or wrong?

 

I also don't think it will ever happen. If one (noticeable) instance of it ever did, it would be complained off. Perhaps ever legal action against that station.

 

To the other members who posted in this topic: We are talking about all ages here, not just adults or mature viewers. At certain times the content comes on, and it is practically unavoidable and we are of course exposed to it. Do you think ages of 5-10 for example should be exposed?

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Well, I have to go back to the fact that there are kids books (designed for 3-6 year olds) that are LGBT books...There's a kid's book called "Sally has two mommies" or something like that. It's a book about a girl who has two moms and it was written for kids. Here's the question I really want to pose: Everyone says "Do you know what it will do to the kids?" but what WILL it do to them? Why is it okay for All Ages shows to show straight relationships and not gay relationships? In Aladdin, Aladdin and Jasmine were in love, and they are seen kissing and such in several episodes. Why not also allow gay material if they allow straight material? Allowing straight material and not gay material tells our kids that it is okay to be straight, but also (partially) tells them it's wrong to be gay. However, if they were exposed to it all, then the kids could grow up nothing both were okay, and as such, they would be more open minded.

 

Now, there's exactly the thing. No one wants our kids to be open minded. Everyone wants our kids to have the same belief as us. If we don't like gays or gay material, we don't want our kids to believe being gay or watching gay material is right. As such, we'll shelter them, we'll hide the world from them. Then, when suddenly the child becomes a teenager and is exposed to the material, they don't know what to do. Now they've reached the point where they don't want to turn to their parents for guidance because they are trying to discover their own path in life, but also don't know what is going on. As such, they turn around and get all of the wrong information from the wrong people. In the end, it confuses our children and makes them less likely to follow the path we've tried to raise them towards (I am speaking from experience on this, by the way).

 

No, I firmly believe that the world needs to buckle down and let things go. Why is porn restricted to 18+ people? We all know that 90% of teenagers 13 and up have at least seen the opposite sex naked, and have probably had sex with them. People are too closed minded and too stupid, though. I think we need to open things up, let our kids be exposed to things at a young age. In turn, we can then teach them about those things. The Bible (yes, I'm using a religious thing for this) says "Train up your children in the way they should go and they will not depart from it." To train up your children, you have to expose them to things AS children. To teach and to train are different things. To train is to actually take a person under your wing and work with them on things. To teach is just to tell them whatever is whatever "just because" and then hope they accept that. If we're going to train our children, we have to expose them to things and show them the truth. As such, I think children deserve the right to be exposed to LGBT material. In that case, they can then be trained up properly and be able to then make the right decisions. In turn, they will lead more successful and productive lives.

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Personally, I think that the 3-6 age range is too young to be making a big fuss over the distinction between "gay material" and "straight material". Material is whatever it is. Sometimes it's completely straight, sometimes it's mostly straight with a little "gay-ness" thrown in, sometimes it's mostly gay with a little "straight-ness" thrown in, sometimes it's completely gay. As far as kids go, there's no need to clog up their little brains with those kind of distinctions, because that will confuse them.

 

As to the other question: should kids be exposed to gay/transgender themes or instances in fiction? Well, why not? If it's not sexually explicit in nature, or overly "talky" and political - basically, the same standards that any children's fiction is held to - what's the worst it will do to the kids? Let them know that kind of thing exists, that's what. It will introduce them to another, completely harmless, type of behavior than the ones they're already accustomed to. And since they're kids, their reaction is likely to be a quick "huh, that's interesting" and then they move on to other subjects.

 

There's been a lot of concern that letting children know that gay/bi people and transsexuals exist will persuade them to grow up to be gay/bi or transsexual. With all due respect, that's bollocks. We've already seen that the reverse isn't true - that children who are sheltered, or brought up to believe that such behaviors are unacceptable, will develop those tendencies at roughly the same rate at anyone else. The only difference is that when they get there - when they discover that they're attracted to people of the same sex or really like to wear women's clothing - they'll be confused and frightened, likely to hate themselves and even kill themselves if they can't find a solution. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that doing the opposite - teaching kids that these behaviors do exist and are not harmful to anyone - will encourage them. If anything, the only thing it will do is make them more likely to reach the age of thirty.

 

Having said all that, I don't think anyone should be forced to include certain content for their shows, and I am all for the preservation of traditional "child-friendly" shows. People have the right to raise their children as they see fit - barring various forms of child abuse - and as such they have the right to seek programming that they deem appropriate.

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There's been a lot of concern that letting children know that gay/bi people and transsexuals exist will persuade them to grow up to be gay/bi or transsexual. With all due respect, that's bollocks. We've already seen that the reverse isn't true - that children who are sheltered, or brought up to believe that such behaviors are unacceptable, will develop those tendencies at roughly the same rate at anyone else.

I disagree with this point. Exposing children to something and showing it as normal will have some persuasion towards it, whatever it may be. The debatable point should be to what degree.

 

I also don't think that sheltering is the reverse. If its on childrens programs it is saying that it is normal and acceptable, the reverse of this is no exposure and learning that its unusual and wrong, as opposed to just sheltering.

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I disagree with this point. Exposing children to something and showing it as normal will have some persuasion towards it, whatever it may be. The debatable point should be to what degree.

Well, it is true that the children will be more likely to accommodate those urges should they have them, and no doubt some kids will decide to try them for the fun of it or in order to try and gain peer acceptance, as with any behavior. However, I severely doubt that it will have a noticeable impact on long-term adoption of behavior.

 

that children who are sheltered, or brought up to believe that such behaviors are unacceptable

I did make note of this option as well.

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This material should be introduce in their early teen years during sex ed. Heterosexual material in deeper depth to the sex ed level is not exposed to young children as well. Let it all come in at the same time in a good way.

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See...here's the thing...children are subjected to Heterosexual beliefs of love at an early age. In a good portion of "All Ages" content, there is some form of love interest (Kim+Ron in Kim Possible, Lizzy+Gordo in Lizzy Maguire, etc). So, if we are already subjecting our children to Heterosexual love at an early age, why not also other forms of love as well?

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