Noob Saibot 38 Report post Posted June 20, 2010 Violence in Video Games RMXPU, So in school yesterday we where told we have to write an essay on a debatable topic and I chose violence in Video Games. Since the first splat of fake blood this has been a topic of great debate to parents, gamers, politician, and game developers alike. And for all their brains they have still not come up with a solution that everyone can agree on. In fact today I would say this is no longer a debate, but an argument as both sides play the, "I am right you are wrong." I must say during my research for my paper I have watched plenty of You Tube videos, read countless blogs, and even read a few books on this touchy subject. Through my findings I have come up with the following conclusion about this childish argument among these adults: 1) Both sides feel they are right in some fashion or form. 2) Our anti violent people like to base their opinion or someone elses on fictional facts. 3) Politicians and other Media figures seem to only come up with solutions that ban or remove such media from the market. 4) Gamers and Game developers though they provide facts on their bases they never come up with a solution or idea to at least please the anti violent people. 5) People seem to just be pointing the finger at who is at fault with no real results. 6) Adults seem to know about this issue and blame violence in video games if they get caught. Though they still get charged the media then begins to focus on violence in video games instead of the actual case. 7) Children who play violent video games and commit a crime leads to politicians, some parents, and the media to ignore the issue or case and focus on the video game stream instead. 8) Adults acting like kids arguing about something without using their head and coming up with reasonable solutions to the issue. I came up with a solution and yes its not a big one and who knows how it may help or not, but no harm in trying right? Better then just arguing about it! MY IDEA Game Informers aims to provide parents, gamers, game developers, and politicians with the knowledge they need to make informed decisions when it comes to that age old debate of violence in video games. We do this by providing videos depicting what can be done in each game, advice from those who play the games, clear facts on violence in video games, and knowledge. We at Game Informers decided to make Game Informers for the sole purpose that people (parents, politicians, gamers, etc) keep pointing the finger at who is right and who is wrong when it comes to violence in video games. For over 10 years all people have done is made excuses and say why they are right and no one decided to come up with a solution to the problem which is not: violence in video games, bad parenting, gamers who support the games, or developers who make them, but rather a lack of understanding, respect, and knowledge of such games. We are here to fill that void and hope to stop the argument among adults who just keep arguing and not coming up with a solution. MISSION To provide you with the facts and advice so you can make informed decisions about violence in video games. While empowering parents, gamers, politicians, and game developers the ability to make knowledgeable decisions about violence in video games. Through the services and features available to you on our site and community. PHILOSOPHY After listening to a wide range of parents, gamers, game developers, and politicians Game Informers found that these people where not coming up with logical solutions to the problem at hand, but instead where coming up with solutions to better suit them, their career, or show that in their own way they are right and everybody else is wrong. Gamers and Developers feel strongly that violence in video games does little or no harm on our children or society. While some parents and politicians feel they do, don’t, or have mixed feeling about this subject. In truth these people just try and put the blame on someone else to benefit themselves in some way and sometimes give no real hard facts about why they are right and others are wrong. With this philosophy in mind, the founders of Game Informers decided to take the action that no one was willing to do. After all some people believe that to solve this problem we should eliminate it, but we know this is not the correct solution as the issue would still be there or cause more issues in itself. The result we came up with is Game Informers a place where people can inform others or get informed about the FACTS about violence in video games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arkbennett 16 Report post Posted June 20, 2010 Honestly, as far as the United States is going, I think they game industry is doing the best they can. It's solely the parents fault. FACT: The ESRB is giving you plain and straight forward information about the contents of the game. If the game contains nudity, it will say "NUDITY" on the back of the label. No different than the MPAA for films. FACT: It is a law that you must be over the age of 17 to buy an M-Rated game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siverix 4 Report post Posted June 20, 2010 ever saw these? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Den 4 Report post Posted June 20, 2010 Thanks siverx now i know what they mean lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valdred 1 Report post Posted June 20, 2010 If they don't like them, don't play them. It's plenty of books/movies/games/whatever that I don't like, and even some that I really dislike, but I don't demand them made ilegal by that reason. :nono4: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arkbennett 16 Report post Posted June 20, 2010 Yes well, things are not so easy for mothers and politicians, what else would they bitch about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noob Saibot 38 Report post Posted June 20, 2010 Honestly, as far as the United States is going, I think they game industry is doing the best they can. It's solely the parents fault. FACT: The ESRB is giving you plain and straight forward information about the contents of the game. If the game contains nudity, it will say "NUDITY" on the back of the label. No different than the MPAA for films. FACT: It is a law that you must be over the age of 17 to buy an M-Rated game. FACTS 1) ESRB is not related, owned or affiliated by any game development company. So in short the industry is doing nothing. 2) Not all retailers abide by this law. 3) Those who rate the games never play them; they just watch short videos (as stated on their site ESRB.org). People don't don't do research before they open their mouth this is a fact within itself. I read a book, Grand Theft Childhood, which talks about how both sides are correct in some fashion or form. However this is load of crap simply that two sides can't be right in some areas. For example the so called studies that are used to prove that children become more violent when playing video games was taken by means of a survey. Flawed idea and poor results to satisfy the need of some politician to better their career instead of coming up with valid solutions. As for parents, you can't say it is souly the parents fault because not all parents are at fault here. There are plenty of cases where an ADULT as committed a crime and used video games as an excuse in an attempt to take the view off them and place it on video games. IN fact most kids know the difference between reality and fantasy and no mater how bad a parent is kids at some point learn right from wrong. FUN FACT Since 1997-2009 over 90,000,000 Grand Theft Auto titles have been sold world wide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Incongruous-Behavior 2 Report post Posted June 20, 2010 No. I don't even feel the need to defend myself. You're completely wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Polraudio 122 Report post Posted June 20, 2010 ever saw these? PARENTS! PARENTS! RATINGS! RATINGS! Parents are to blame for kids playing 18+ games. End of debate. Look at the damn ratings before buying a game and blaming it on crap. End of debate. If you cannot tell Reality from games your retarded. Thats all you should need in your report. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valdred 1 Report post Posted June 20, 2010 You are right, but unfortunately there are retards out there and if they just happen to possess a gun... BOOM! But as you said, PARRENTS PARRENTS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiriashi 117 Report post Posted June 20, 2010 Yes well, things are not so easy for mothers and politicians, what else would they bitch about? This ^^ I think that nothing can influence someone to commit crimes more than the people who raised them, and who they were with most of the time while growing up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arkbennett 16 Report post Posted June 20, 2010 Doesn't matter if the ESRB is affiliated by any game development company. Seems all published games still require it's little logo on the back, now doesn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noob Saibot 38 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 No. I don't even feel the need to defend myself. You're completely wrong. Defend yourself? This is a discussion not accusing anyone of anything. So try growing up!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Incongruous-Behavior 2 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 What? Let me rephrase that; 'I don't feel the need to say why I think that'. Only because, In my opinion, it's pretty obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Polraudio 122 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 The only thing im saying is that the parents should be blamed for their kids playing Violent Video Games because they have to buy it in the 1st place. Then they go bitching because kids are playing these bad games when they are the ones at fault for buying them for their kids. Violent Video Games shouldn't be blamed for anything. Like Ark said, it only gives someone something to blame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Den 4 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Is the ESRB rating law world wide or only in the U.S, because they have got those tiny stickers on the cds here too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Incongruous-Behavior 2 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Only in the U.S and Canada, Den. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Den 4 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Does that mean i can buy any game outside of us and canada even with an 18+ rating ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Incongruous-Behavior 2 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Unfortunately, no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arkbennett 16 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 I thought Canada used Pego, or something like that... Hrm, maybe that is the UK? Other countries have ESRB equivalents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon 55 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 I just shot 62 people, 44 of them lawmen in the old west. Now excuse me while I go repeat that super-cool thing in real life! B.S. If free will is destroyed by video-games, then I'd be a slave. After 20 years, I should be nothing more than a mindless drone, like the Halo-killer. Video game violence has about as much effect on kids as ice cream has on a fat guy. Yes, you would like to do it at times, but 'should you' is the question. Responsibility should lie with the parents. Control your damn kid, and they won't play the games you don't want them to. Simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Incongruous-Behavior 2 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 I just shot 62 people, 44 of them lawmen in the old west. Now excuse me while I go repeat that super-cool thing in real life! B.S. If free will is destroyed by video-games, then I'd be a slave. After 20 years, I should be nothing more than a mindless drone, like the Halo-killer. Video game violence has about as much effect on kids as ice cream has on a fat guy. Yes, you would like to do it at times, but 'should you' is the question. Responsibility should lie with the parents. Control your damn kid, and they won't play the games you don't want them to. Simple as that. I agree completely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FranklinX 37 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Parents should do research about games before buying them. It's not hard to find a trailer. However stores are also at fault sometimes because they sell underage kids, games of an above age requirement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Den 4 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Unfortunately, no. Why not the law is only in the us,uk and canada and im not in either :blink: ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siverix 4 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 europe has pegi :biggrin_002: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madanchi 18 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 ideots and people who need an excuse blame crime/ violance on games, thats all there is to it, and its usually ideot media crap that stir things up by like one individual moaning and then the media make out that everyone one else has the same view, whent hey dont Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siverix 4 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 like someone said the politics have to have something to cry about oh and soccer moms too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Incongruous-Behavior 2 Report post Posted June 21, 2010 Why not the law is only in the us,uk and canada and im not in either ? It's against the law in every state. That's why different 'companies' rate the games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Den 4 Report post Posted June 22, 2010 Oh well no one here follows the laws, i know a guy in grade 1 who plays san andreas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siverix 4 Report post Posted June 22, 2010 you mean where ARE people in the world who abide the laws set for the virtual world? :blink: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites