Feedback for everyone on the site.

[Leon 55]

To the shit-starters on this forum(, and everyone knows who they are):

 

I am tired of you guys thinking you can come in and run this forum. This is rather annoying, and I am done putting up with

it. I refuse to stand by and let this great site plummet because a few people can't follow the rules or think the rules

should be to THEIR interpretation rather than, oh, say, the OWNERS! I would rather post this and keep my self respect in

the matter. I am not going to name names here, because I am sure everyone here is smart enough to figure out to who I am

refering...

 

First and foremost, I am sick of people bating for racist debates, racist remarks, and setting the 'race card' in motion.

I don't give a rat's a$$ if you are black, white, asian or even purple; knock it off. This site isn't to discuss Lincoln,

MLK, Malcolm X, or Ho Chi Minh. This is a site for people to get along. Not promote their own race as better than the others or say things aren't equal.

 

Second, this talk on spam, as well as rules, since they are conjoined in the matter; if you don't like how the forum is

ran, don't post it where everyone can see it. That start's shit. In fact, some of who posted there, as well as other

areas, have pointed out that rule-breaking should be handled via PM. So, instead of PUBLICALLY HARASSING the staff, try the

PM button. I find it slanderous that you would attack the staff and say they aren't doing their job in the open like that.

It is dishonorable and void of character.

 

Lastly, There is a difference between debate and starting shit-talk and bating for a flame war or trying to antagonize a

person or set of persons. Get off your high horses and quit thinking you are better than everyone else. EVERYONE is equal,

there is nobody better than the other. Get over it, get over yourself, or leave. I'm done with this teenage drama BULLSHIT.

Either work with the community and move on.

 

Two years ago, this site may have been small and only slightly active, but at least people got along, worked together, and

there was no conflict in any way. I'd rather have that over jerks any day. I don't care if they make a million resources

for everyone to use, I'd rather have a respectable member.

[Knuckles 1]

if you don't like how the forum is ran, don't post it where everyone can see it. That start's shit.

Precisely what in the hell is this feedback forum for? I've read your rules, and observed your staff carrying out judgment on 'disputes' that are NOT in contradiction, and posted FEEDBACK about it where it belongs. Your members have a lot of respect for this website and the staff. Try a little bit harder not to bust it by devaluing feedback and slap it back in their face, should you disagree.

[FranklinX 37]

 

First and foremost, I am sick of people bating for racist debates, racist remarks, and setting the 'race card' in motion.

I don't give a rat's a$$ if you are black, white, asian or even purple; knock it off. This site isn't to discuss Lincoln,

MLK, Malcolm X, or Ho Chi Minh. This is a site for people to get along. Not promote their own race as better than the others or say things aren't equal.

 

That is what the debate forums are for. You are very hypocritical as you gave me a threat in one of the topics, and lied about me saying racist things against whites and blacks. You have the nerve to post such a topic acting as if you are so innocent. Since the thread you lied and threaten me I have since avoided you to not have conflicts, but you had to act so innocent.

 

The debate forum is open to ALL topics. You are the ONLY person who had an issues with a topic. No one else has any issues/personal attacks in this forum.

 

Furthermore most people are not breaking the rules. Knuckles did make a good point in the topic to add things in the rules. I do not agree how he did as I believe if he did it in a better way things would had looked better. No one is acting like they run this site. We offer suggestions, NOT orders. I have made a lot of suggestions. A few Marked agreed with and a lot he disagreed with.

[Chief 30]

First and foremost, I am sick of people bating for racist debates, racist remarks, and setting the 'race card' in motion.

I don't give a rat's a$$ if you are black, white, asian or even purple; knock it off. This site isn't to discuss Lincoln,

MLK, Malcolm X, or Ho Chi Minh. This is a site for people to get along. Not promote their own race as better than the others or say things aren't equal.

 

+1 for this

[rgangsta 43]

Precisely what in the hell is this feedback forum for? I've read your rules, and observed your staff carrying out judgment on 'disputes' that are NOT in contradiction, and posted FEEDBACK about it where it belongs. Your members have a lot of respect for this website and the staff. Try a little bit harder not to bust it by devaluing feedback and slap it back in their face, should you disagree.

 

Well your topic on the feedback could've been a little discreet. The way you introduced yourself seemed like you were attacking Kiriashi. What you could've done was post your feedback in a non-threatening manner then PM Kiriashi and have a private conversation with him about the matter. Because you basically you didn't do what you wanted the staff to do. And the staff conducts their job well. Kiriashi once PMed me about something I did wrong. So there really was no reason to make a topic about staff not following the rules.

My opinion is that you should just stop, relax and don't start nothing else. If you have a problem with someone or something, just PM a staff member. That's why they're here. Even now, you could've apologized and PM Leon about the this topic but you chose to dig a deeper hole for yourself.

 

 

That is what the debate forums are for. You are very hypocritical as you gave me a threat in one of the topics, and lied about me saying racist things against whites and blacks. You have the nerve to post such a topic acting as if you are so innocent. Since the thread you lied and threaten me I have since avoided to not have conflicts, but you had to act so innocent.

 

The debate forum is open to ALL topics. You are the ONLY person who had an issues with a topic. No one else has any issues/personal attacks in this forum.

 

Furthermore most people are not breaking the rules. Knuckles did make a good point in the topic to add things in the rules. I do not agree how he did as I believe if he did it in a better way things would had looked better. No one is acting like they run this site. We offer suggestions, NOT orders. I have made a lot of suggestions. A few Marked agreed with and a lot he disagreed with.

 

I'm don't want to be a jerk, but you do post a lot of debates. They're nice to debate over but you have to set a limit for yourself. Just don't post anything about race and sexuality. Because if someone happened to pass by and were homosexual or a different race group, they might be offended. Those types of topics are real sensitive to people. Just make topics like the recent one about people not wanting to date people with the same characteristics. That's a great topic and I'm pretty sure it won't hurt anyone's feelings.

[Guest Allen Hunter]

That is what the debate forums are for. You are very hypocritical as you gave me a threat in one of the topics, and lied about me saying racist things against whites and blacks. You have the nerve to post such a topic acting as if you are so innocent. Since the thread you lied and threaten me I have since avoided to not have conflicts, but you had to act so innocent.

 

The debate forum is open to ALL topics. You are the ONLY person who had an issues with a topic. No one else has any issues/personal attacks in this forum.

 

Furthermore most people are not breaking the rules. Knuckles did make a good point in the topic to add things in the rules. I do not agree how he did as I believe if he did it in a better way things would had looked better. No one is acting like they run this site. We offer suggestions, NOT orders. I have made a lot of suggestions. A few Marked agreed with and a lot he disagreed with.

+1 for this.

[Knuckles 1]

Even now, you could've apologized and PM Leon about the this topic

Apologizing would be sufficient if I feel remorse. Sadly I will not lie to Leon and tell him "I'm sorry."

 

but you chose to dig a deeper hole for yourself.

That hole is the least of my worries.

[FranklinX 37]

Well your topic on the feedback could've been a little discreet. The way you introduced yourself seemed like you were attacking Kiriashi. What you could've done was post your feedback in a non-threatening manner then PM Kiriashi and have a private conversation with him about the matter. Because you basically you didn't do what you wanted the staff to do. And the staff conducts their job well. Kiriashi once PMed me about something I did wrong. So there really was no reason to make a topic about staff not following the rules.

My opinion is that you should just stop, relax and don't start nothing else. If you have a problem with someone or something, just PM a staff member. That's why they're here. Even now, you could've apologized and PM Leon about the this topic but you chose to dig a deeper hole for yourself.

 

 

 

 

I'm don't want to be a jerk, but you do post a lot of debates. They're nice to debate over but you have to set a limit for yourself. Just don't post anything about race and sexuality. Because if someone happened to pass by and were homosexual or a different race group, they might be offended. Those types of topics are real sensitive to people. Just make topics like the recent one about people not wanting to date people with the same characteristics. That's a great topic and I'm pretty sure it won't hurt anyone's feelings.

 

Knuckles did NOT attack Kirishai personally. He criticized Kiriashi of his job. Criticism and personal attacks are two different things.

 

The debate section is open to EVERYTHING. People SHOULD respect each other's opinions. If it is a touchy topic for a person then avoid it. Maybe say why it is a touchy topic, but that does not mean the conversation/debate will end. I am black and I have no problems talking about the KKK. Yeah they're a awful group of people but avoiding talking about social problems will cause more problems then solutions.

[Enigma 10]

Hello Everyone, Management here

Management would like to provide part of the rules as reference which Management believes is applicable to this topic

(0.1) WHAT IS THE RULE OF CONDUCT

If you follow this rule, you should not be able to break any other rule. This rule is called common sense, it’s called being friendly, it’s called being forgiving; it’s the philosophy of RMXP Unlimited.

 

RMXP Unlimited was created to accommodate more than just RPG Maker; and that was like that from the get go. The first goal of RMXP Unlimited was to provide a friendly environment for members to exchange information, material and have fun, and it is still that goal that drives RMXP Unlimited today; so, as a member, your duty is to encourage this philosophy so that RMXP Unlimited can stay like what it should be.

 

If somebody flames you, you should not flame that member back.

The best weapon against fire isn’t fire; its common sense water should be used.

 

Stay calm, answer with respect and intelligence, and if you can’t, just restrain yourself from posting. Not answering to flaming or answering without flaming isn’t letting yourself be beaten or had by another member, you are rising above that other member, and all the other members will notice that you are the better one, after all, you can control yourself.

 

If you are stuck in an E-Drama event, do not add more drama over and over again.

The best solution when stuck in quicksand isn’t to move like crazy; it’s common sense you should stay calm and think your way out.

 

Just stop taking everything too seriously or personal on the forum, just stop harassing other members, RMXP Unlimited isn’t a war zone for your personal problem to be exposed and probed by everyone. If you post in the Frustration Room or the Pub, you should expect post contrary to your opinions and beliefs, if you can’t accept those different points of view; do not post your problems on the forum.

 

Please, use common sense; and be friendly.

 

(1.0) E-DRAMA

 

(1.1) WHAT IS E-DRAMA

E-Drama stands for Electronic Drama, and refers to a situation in which a single person or multiple parties either over-dramatize something, take something too personally; or something was too personal to be publicly presented in RMXP Unlimited. E-Drama can (but is not always) the cause of flaming, but is more dangerous in the sense that E-Drama is like quicksand; once members are in it, it can be hard to get out; and it expands dramatically as it has a tendency of pulling new members in, just as flaming.

 

There is no quick example of E-Drama, because E-Drama is generally created by a sequence of events or post, that when added to one another, ends up being E-Drama. E-Drama mainly consists on elaborating too much on a subject in a personal manner, taking the situation too seriously. E-Drama is usually an endless fight or debate in which other rules are broken; such as flaming. If E-Drama is stopped, flaming will be down considerably.

 

By naming names you make it personal, so please refrain from doing so, also keep this in mind as well

Stay calm, answer with respect and intelligence, and if you can’t, just restrain yourself from posting.

 

Normally, Management does not post in topic such as these, but we feel that it would be the best course of action

Thank you

 

"On a Side note, Enigma here. Here's a suggestion for you specifically Franklin, you plan to debate you need to switch sides occasionally as this helps palliate bias and prejudice. For example, I personally believe in Christianity but I took part in a philosophy debate supporting Islam, this forced me to throw away my bias and consider the facts"

[formlesstree4 18]

Knuckles did NOT attack Kirishai personally. He criticized Kiriashi of his job. Criticism and personal attacks are two different things.

 

This is true, but the presentation of the criticism makes all the difference, and how it can be interpreted. Some might view Knuckles' brutal honesty as a personal attack. I don't think it's a personal attack, I just feel that it could've been presented better and taken care of behind-the-scenes (AKA via Private Messaging) rather than dragging several other members and staff into it. That's where I think things went astray. Call me crazy, but to me, something like this should've been taken care of behind the scenes since it has to do with how someone felt about certain actions a specific staff member took.

[FranklinX 37]

I like this topic to be deleted. We should not have such distasteful topics on this forum. We came too far to let this stop us. No one is breaking any major rules. One person criticizes Kiriashi and it's like the world has come to an end. Calm down people. Let's make up and move on. Please

[Enigma 10]

This is one Hot Topic

 

I support this thread as it allows for something to be straightened out, the fact that this topic exists shows that the problem is here

 

we can't just ignore it

Like the U.S does the impending end of nonrenewable resources

[Broken Messiah 20]

I normally try not to get involved in these kind of things because at the end of the day I could care less but I will say this:

 

As for Franklin's racial topics, no one is forcing you to reply to them. If you are tired of them, don't reply. Its that simple.

 

Second, I agree with Leon's opinion about thrashing the moderators and staff. Remember how many are there actually active?

 

I think Kiriashi and Leon, and as for Admin, there is Marked. This is a active forum and they are just three people trying to keep in line everyone else, so just

 

cut them some slack.

 

 

 

How dare you attack the us!!!! :shok: :lol:

 

 

[FranklinX 37]

This is one Hot Topic

 

I support this thread as it allows for something to be straightened out, the fact that this topic exists shows that the problem is here

 

we can't just ignore it

Like the U.S does the impending end of nonrenewable resources

 

There is not much of a problem. Leon is incorrect about a lot of people breaking the rules. Secondly he is also incorrect about what is allowed in the debates.

 

The only problem is that people are upset at HOW Knuckles presented his problems and how he handled it. It should have been done in a better manner to make a quicker and good solution for everyone.

[rgangsta 43]

Knuckles did NOT attack Kirishai personally. He criticized Kiriashi of his job. Criticism and personal attacks are two different things.

 

The debate section is open to EVERYTHING. People SHOULD respect each other's opinions. If it is a touchy topic for a person then avoid it. Maybe say why it is a touchy topic, but that does not mean the conversation/debate will end. I am black and I have no problems talking about the KKK. Yeah they're a awful group of people but avoiding talking about social problems will cause more problems then solutions.

 

I didn't say he did. I said he seemed as if he was trying to. I didn't think it was an attack. But he could've made the presentation of his point a little less blunt.

 

RMXPU is here to build a friendly environment like it says in the rules. It does make sense that if someone feels uncomfortable with the topic that they should leave but what if most of the topics are sensitive topics? That person would feel overwhelmed and just might leave. Like I said, set a limit to what kinds of topics you post.

 

 

Now I kind of feel like this is beginning to start into a war of flames. So let's try not to get over excited before things get out of hand.

[Leon 55]

You know, it is funny how only certain people are offended, and the others are against them, isn't it? Seems like some people got their feathers ruffled for being called out on their actions. One debate on race is fine. Two, maybe. But to bring race into almost anything is bull.

 

For the rules, don't you DARE accuse the staff of not doing their job. The integrity of the job hasn't changed in 4 years, and it has worked until some people decided to keep pushing it, and pushing it. If you can't keep it civil, get the hell out. Either keep a civil tongue, or you will be called upon it.

[FranklinX 37]

To the shit-starters on this forum(, and everyone knows who they are):

 

I also like to note this as flaming. We are NOT SHIT. The only person who has broken the rules are YOU for flaming AGAIN.

[Leon 55]

I didn't name a name, and i didn't call you shit. i said shit was started. I never said by who, and I never attacked an individual.

[Chief 30]

ibl

 

Marked I feel for you. Sorry about all of this. I can't say I know exactly how it feels to have your own, successful, forum ruined my warring members, but I can relate a little bit. All I can say is to tough it out?

[Guest Allen Hunter]

To the shit-starters on this forum(, and everyone knows who they are):

Nope. You're definitely NOT flaming anyone.

[CrimsonInferno 35]

What has happened to cause all this? :(

[Leon 55]

How? I didn't name a name, and I didn't CALL a name. I said these few people start shit. Not are shit.

 

What has happened to cause all this? :(

I got tired of seeing the name of Unlimited's staff being dragged through the mud, and I got tired of people always bringing race or other things into almost every debate or topic.

 

I would rather see this major feedback opened rather than let RMXPU's name be smudged.

[Guest Allen Hunter]

Well, perhaps you could have put it in a more civil tone, just like how the people are bitching about Knuckles' honesty.

 

I got tired of seeing the name of Unlimited's staff being dragged through the mud

No free speech allowed? What a shitty forum.

 

Also, we weren't dragging the names through the mud, at least on Knuckles' account. He just had a problem with Kiriashi punishing a member for doing something that's not even covered in your rules. That is all. Us, the community, we HAVE the right to be assertive and tell it like it is when things go wrong. Stop reading Creation-Asylum's rules while moderating this place, please.

[Leon 55]

Well, perhaps you could have put it in a more civil tone, same with how people are bitching about how Knuckles reacted to Kiriashi's actions.

 

It's not much fun the shoe is on the other foot for the people who started this, is it? I think I have begun to make my point.

[FranklinX 37]

You know, it is funny how only certain people are offended, and the others are against them, isn't it? Seems like some people got their feathers ruffled for being called out on their actions. One debate on race is fine. Two, maybe. But to bring race into almost anything is bull.

 

For the rules, don't you DARE accuse the staff of not doing their job. The integrity of the job hasn't changed in 4 years, and it has worked until some people decided to keep pushing it, and pushing it. If you can't keep it civil, get the hell out. Either keep a civil tongue, or you will be called upon it.

 

Get the hell out? Everyone in this topic has been civil expect you. Telling people to leave is not making this site look good when it is said by a STAFF member. You as a staff member represent this site and should do your best to make it look respectful.

 

You may as well say my damn name. EVERYONE knows I have made racial topics. Race is all around us. No one has said anything racist, but yet you have falsely accused me of being a racist.

 

You are in no position to be a mod. You have threaten me, lied about me, and now made a thread to call me out. You also just called me shit. At first I thought this was about both me and Knuckles. Now I see your main focus was about me. This site needs respectful mods who will respect the members of this site. I highly suggestion that you will be revoked of your mod powers and suspended for flaming.

 

There is not anything wrong with how many racial topics are made. Anime and video games use forms of racism. We see racism everyday in this world. We see how race effects cultures and society. WOW I only see 4 YES FOUR racial topics in a year's time. That is not a lot considering that I make the most topics in the debate forum. Secondly the debate forum would rarely be used if I did NOT make any topics as few people rarely do.

 

The debate forums are about debates. They are for MATURE conversation. Racical topics have ONLY been made there.

 

Yes I have said racial jokes, but they were harmless. There is nothing wrong with saying a joke about chicken and blacks. Chicken is tasty.

 

Everyone who had issues with me always sent me PMs on this site or instant messages. You could have done that.

[Leon 55]

I never accused anyone of anything. those who take offense are the guilty parties.

[FranklinX 37]

To the shit-starters on this forum(, and everyone knows who they are):

 

 

 

I didn't name a name, and i didn't call you shit. i said shit was started. I never said by who, and I never attacked an individual.

 

Leon you are a fake individual. You said "Shit-Starters. You clearly called us shit. There is no way around it. Stop playing the innocent victim when you yourself made this topic attacking me and other members.

 

I never accused anyone of anything. those who take offense are the guilty parties.

 

You continue you lie to make yourself look good. YOU MADE THIS TOPIC ACCUSING MEMBERS OF BREAKING THE RULES. NO ONE breaks the rules so badly to cause such a topic to be made. You accused members of trying to take over this site.

[CrimsonInferno 35]

Exactly what happened though?

 

Come on guys, we are all friends here. Can't we just move past it?

[Guest Allen Hunter]

RKO used to respect you guys and he'd advertise this site on every other RM forum he'd go to. Now, apparently, the tables have turned. Leon, you have a problem with Knuckles calling out Kiriashi for unfairly (I say unfairly, because he was inventing rules that are not even included on the current one) warning another member. There are a PLETHORA of forums that allow double posting, so long as the member doesn't spam.

[FranklinX 37]

RKO used to respect you guys and he'd advertise this site on every other RM forum he'd go to. Now, apparently, the tables have turned. Leon, you have a problem with Knuckles calling out Kiriashi for unfairly (I say unfairly, because he was inventing rules that are not even included on the current one) warning another member. There are a PLETHORA of forums that allow double posting, so long as the member doesn't spam.

 

To be honest and man enough to say names. I have respect for all of the members of this site except for Leon and Issacol. I see everyone on this site as my online friends. Sure we may have debates and disagree with one another, but they do not stop me from being online forum friends with them.