What happened to the passion of gamers and developers?

[Noob Saibot 38]

What happened to the passion of gamers and developers?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9JdIqfiRmc

 

v/Respectfully,

Noob

[Polraudio 122]

I completely agree with you 100%. I love the classics way better than the modern games. I rather play FF1-3 than any other FF game out there. Classic games had so much put into them. Back then they wanted to make the best game they could. Now days they just slap anything together that they think people will play(COD) just to make money.

 

The only good developers are indie games. At least they put the time dedication into their games to make them good.

[Moonpearl 32]

I completely agree with you 100%. I love the classics way better than the modern games. I rather play FF1-3 than any other FF game out there.

I agree with that, except that FF1-3 are already modern games to me. They may be old but they were the precursor to everything I hate in nowadays games. Recent FF titles, for instance, are their legitimate descendants, since they have barely evolved in terms of gameplay. There used to be games in which you actually had to think, and if it hasn't been for FF, there might still be some of them around.

[Bob423 52]

FFX...saying that game wasnt good is like saying mario doesnt wear a hat. best ff ive played, for sure. its true that the later ff games seemed to suck, but they just seem like that, because they arent as good. 1-3 may have been good, but they werent the best. you just want nostalgia (or however its spelled, my phone doesnt have spell check.) and if you want a game where you have to think, there are plenty of those. zelda, pokemon (more so the older ones), and even cathrine (havent played it, but ive watchecd my friend and brother play it.)

[Bigace360 38]

FF1-3, FFX, FF12, & FFTA are the only ones that I like in the series. But I never really played 4-9, so I can't really say much. FF13 however requires no strategy at all, but to button mash and manditorily change classes during battle. KH was button mash but at least you can move and do other stuff during battle. Dues Ex- Human Revelution was fun RPG and require strategy for stealthy missions.

 

One game that Nintendo gets retarted on is Pokemon, they could do so much with it like give it a Star Ocean type battle system and shit, but they rather waste there time, resources, and money on making shitty pikachu adventure games. I bet you they would make a shit load of cash if they put all the color games in one, put it on the Wii U, and give it a action type battle system instead of a 2D lazy battle system that is completely random. Ethier you miss or don't.

 

They make multi of Zelda and Mario games, but they all basically have the same formula each game. Save the princess either in a different time zone, or just a giant monkey or turtle stealing her.

 

Assassin Creed is amazing, nuff said...

 

Star Ocean has a good story and Battle System, but the passion for anything else goes down the drain when Tri-ace tries to find characters and write there dialog. An even worse example would be Infinite Undiscovery. If it wasn't for the poorly written dialog and that one death scene in the middle of the game the game would of been amazing. But since Tri-ace writters suck dick, so did the dialog in the game.

[Moonpearl 32]

and if you want a game where you have to think, there are plenty of those. zelda, pokemon (more so the older ones), and even cathrine (havent played it, but ive watchecd my friend and brother play it.)

That's what you call games in which you have to think? Well, I guess it does explain a lot.

[Bob423 52]

Not enough thinking for you? then whatg do you mean? something like myst?

[Moonpearl 32]

Not enough thinking for you?

Of course not! Trying to think whenever playing a RPG is actually counterproductive. This is one thing I hate about the genre: you don't solve a RPG, a RPG solves itself by telling you what to do and where to go, and it's not possible (or otherwise useless) to try and do anything else. For thinking to take place in the player's mind, they must be presented with choices in the first place. Ironically enough, puzzle games, which require you to find the one and only way to go, offer many more options, and thus involve actual solving, than those so-called "roleplaying games" - in which the roleplay aspect is limited to moving the character along maps, you don't even get dialog choices.

 

then whatg do you mean? something like myst?

Yes. That (among others) is what I call thinking.

[Bigace360 38]

Of course not! Trying to think whenever playing a RPG is actually counterproductive. This is one thing I hate about the genre: you don't solve a RPG, a RPG solves itself by telling you what to do and where to go, and it's not possible (or otherwise useless) to try and do anything else. For thinking to take place in the player's mind, they must be presented with choices in the first place. Ironically enough, puzzle games, which require you to find the one and only way to go, offer many more options, and thus involve actual solving, than those so-called "roleplaying games" - in which the roleplay aspect is limited to moving the character along maps, you don't even get dialog choices.

 

Don't all the Western RPG's do that, Dragon Age, Fall Out, Dues Ex, etc. I think SE is the company you're thinking of that doesn't put much thought in there RPG's (except FF12 series). With FF13 being the worst of them all just being a giant movie.

[Moonpearl 32]

Don't all the Western RPG's do that, Dragon Age, Fall Out, Dues Ex, etc.

Well, good examples indeed, cause at least the two latter games mentioned above don't play like classical RPGs at all, do they? They're being mixed up with other RPGs because they don't know where to put them, but they're actually a different genre. And although Square Enix is the name that comes to mind, other companies' RPG are essentially the same.