Internet Explore Issue

[Bigace360 38]

There seems to be a issue with the site when using IE. It started sometime last night and now my main computer, laptops, and my grandma's computer is acting up on this site. However, my phone, kindle fire, and Google chrome are working fine. I don't know if this is because of the move to GDU or something just reporting what I've seen. Works fine on Google Chrome just not on IE.

 

Is anyone else experiencing this on IE?

[Bob423 52]

solution: stop using internet explorer. why are you?

[Bigace360 38]

Because I like it, my opinion. Thats not the main issue here though.

[Ecowolfsteen 14]

Dang it Bob! You beat me to it. Seriously, don't use it. Just use Chrome of Firefox, heck even Safari is better than IE. I'm not really sure if anybody here uses IE, so we wouldn't know.

[Bigace360 38]

Alright, from this point on I'm ignoring all post that tell me that IE sucks as thats not the question here and it's really annoying when you're question is side tracked. Whether or not you hate IE has nothing to do with this issue, thats just your opinion.

Edited June 1, 2012 by bigace

[kellessdee 48]

Okay I'm not going to post that IE sucks, because that is my opinion.

 

I'll be more objective:

 

What version of IE are you using? What is "acting up" specifically? From what I can tell (with IE v9.0.8112.16421, update 9.0.6) the site works pretty *well.* (As *well* as IE works, In my opinion) Nothing seems broken, but I don't use IE regularly, so I have no idea what functions I should try.

 

The difficulty with IE, is that Trident (IE's rendering engine) is behind the current technologies. It's catching up, but IE is generally regarded as the *least* compatible...this is starting to become less true than it was with the older versions (I'm looking at you IE6/7)

 

So, if you could, please post which IE version and what exactly is "broken."

 

*ahem* now I'm gonna hit post before my comment degrades into IE bashing :(

[Jon Bon 43]

My IE is working fine here. I constantly use both IE and Firefox, and have never had a problem here that is IE specific. Although I use both browsers, it's mainly because I keep two emails open and two browsers is the easiest way to do it and not have them linked in any way, I still prefer firefox by far, IE always has weird issues, and if you check your idle processes it's more taxing on the system.

I know you don't want to hear it, but everyone is trying to help you, firefox is better for now, why not try it out? It's virtually identical in operating methods, which is also why I use both, but its performance is noticeably better.

In any case my IE is as well as it normally does on this site and others. Even if you don't want to use firefox or chrome how can you be expected to test your IE to see if the error is specific to it or your computer/connect? You need a control for your experiment, you need another browser to be able to figure out where the problem is. Then just still use IE.

[Bigace360 38]

The latest version, however I think whatever it was doing earlier is over with as the site font is normal, the threads aren't lagging all over the place, and use my moderating power in the VXace section again (they were there, but the system was lagging so bad that nothing would happen when I was trying to update the tutorial page.)

 

Edit:

@JonBon: while that could be true, telling me IE SUX WHY U IT, isn't really saying anything and is kind of annoying. Explain why I should switch. But it works now, so this issue can rest.

Edited June 1, 2012 by bigace

[Jon Bon 43]

I never use chrome but I downloaded it so if my IE and firefox aren't working right I have something else to test and see where the problem is. Even if you just had another browser you would have known in seconds if the problem was IE specific or not.

[Bigace360 38]

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Edited June 1, 2012 by bigace

[Jon Bon 43]

I would still grab chrome if I were you, it's faster then all three and stream lined so next time you can just boot it up when IE isn't working and know in seconds if the problem is browser specific, instead of the hour and 5 people it took. I don't care if you swap, but you could easily troubleshoot this problem in the future if you had two browsers.

[Bigace360 38]

Uh I have all browers except firefox on my computer. I even said in the OP that It works fine in Google Chrome.

[Jon Bon 43]

Sorry mate, I saw that in the list with the kindle fire, and phone I just assumed it wasn't on your pc, seemed weird to list it with mobile devices. Well, good stuff!

[Bigace360 38]

Oh, I guess that would look confusing. ops

[kellessdee 48]

Nowadays, browser performance is hardly different enough to switch from your preference. Plus, often it comes down to the website itself. Web development is EXTREMELY difficult to appease all browsers, and generally require a lot of hacking to get it a website to perform the same across all browsers. I'd say pick a browser that does what YOU want your browser to do.

 

In this case, this website is optimal on firefox if I recall correctly (which would be the Gecko rendering engine; there's another thing to watch out for, 90% of the time what matters is the rendering engine, and the browser itself is just your fun features)

 

Personally, I use Comodo Dragon (which is just a modified Google Chrome minus all that data collecting, and slightly better Security features--heavier warnings on sketchy websites, etc.)

 

But I have *most* mainstream browsers.

 

If we're gonna start a religious war though, REAL MENPEOPLE(I'm not sexist I swear) USE LYNX http://lynx.browser.org/

Who needs client side scripting and CSS? Command-Line browsing ftw.

 

EDIT:

Oh yea, for an objective comparison, I think Gecko (firefox, et al.) supports the MOST HTML5/CSS3, then WebKit (Chrome, Safari, et al.), then Trident (Internet Explorer)

 

I think...the numbers may have changed. Web technologies evolve TOO FAST.

 

EDIT2: I only included mainstream rendering engines, since I don't know much about the other ones...

[Jon Bon 43]

Who needs client side scripting and CSS? Command-Line browsing ftw.

 

Yikes! Reminds me of the dos days.

[kellessdee 48]

Lol yea, I don't actually use Lynx. I do on my home/print server (if I need to browse the web from my server...which is rare), but only because I have to, it's all command line (the damn machine's too old for it to be worth trying to get a GUI desktop running on it, i think).

 

Unfortunately, in this day and age, it's hard to get away with web browsing without a javascript enabled web browser

 

I only point out lynx, because I remember my reaction when my linux teacher introduced it to me...I was like "WHOA, NO WAY, THEY STILL HAVE THESE?" had fun for a few minutes, then lost interest. haha, it's useful if you like to mess with linux, and manage to break X-Server. Then you can still browse the web to figure out how to fix your mistake haha......xD

 

EDIT:

Also, yikes, DOS flashbacks!! lol

[Marked 197]

It had nothing to do with GDU, nothing has changed on RMXPU for months and months now.

 

I know its annoying when people say just don't use IE, but take it from someone who had to optimize websites to display properly in IE, they have a point. IE8 and lower are an absolute disgrace, and I'd veto any future version because of their ignorance. If not for their monopoly, they wouldn't have done such a half ass job.

 

In saying that, IE9 and greater, they show websites pretty well and still have a few problems, but its not a bad a browser.

 

RMXPU had only been optimized for firefox. GDU will optimized for IE9+, firefox, chrome and opera, and mobile devices (so far as being compatible with my ipod touch, my andriod phone, and my brothers tablet :P )

[kellessdee 48]

I was wondering when the professional would show up! [/timezone ignorance]

 

their monopoly, they wouldn't have done such a half ass job.

 

I wonder if it's a coincidence, that the real improvements started to pop-up roughly around the time M$ IE market shares started dropping.

 

I've also wondered why they care so much, since they're still winning the OS wars by a LONG SHOT. But, I'm not a business man, and I am sure there are some important reasons to care about this.

 

RMXPU had only been optimized for firefox. GDU will optimized for IE9+, firefox, chrome and opera, and mobile devices (so far as being compatible with my ipod touch, my andriod phone, and my brothers tablet )

 

WOO! This, is great news. Mobile compatibility is a nice touch! Though, generally speaking, I've had a pretty good experience with mobile browsing on RMXPU thus far...though I've only ever visited the forums.

[Marked 197]

Ah yes, well the forums come with its own default mobile skin that comes with the software. Certainly not made by me. Since the layout isn't actually defined using the software (the forums are actually loaded within the GDU template) it will be the same design that slowly 'downgrades' as your window decreases in size.

 

Take my bank for example, https://www.kiwibank.co.nz/ Load it up and squeeze the window and see how it changes. That's the sort of thing I'll be going for.

[isaacsol 10]

I like how after a certain point it understood that the resolution could only be possible on a phone so switches to the mobile site. That would be quite cool for GDU.

[Marked 197]

Yup. Without the sidebar, that should be a lot easier. I think it's pretty easier to do actually.

 

With my job, I rarely get to use the cool css3 features because I gotta make my sites compatible with IE7 & 8. So I'm having none of that with GDU. If you don't use a standards-compatible browser then you're going to miss out. But that will be most people, so its okay.

[Heretic86 25]

I dont think this should be about IE bashing, I think it should be about trying to find a solution to those that use IE. Even if people know better than to use IE, sometimes using or even installing another browser just isnt an option.

[Marked 197]

sometimes using or even installing another browser just isnt an option.

But does really exist for users who frequently use the site? If you're a regular visitor, I don't see a reason why this would be true 100% of the time, except in extraordinary exceptional cases.

 

IE bashing is actually a positive thing. The less people using it the better for them and the internet. But I know that wasn't your point.

 

With regards to what I said above, I will probably do a few tweaks to ensure the layout cooperates with ie7 & 8. IE9 should work right away, minus some css3 gradients. But there will be features that simply cannot be reconciled with some versions of IE. I would have to go to great lengths to do so, for the minority. But this of course should only be additional features, and the site's basic functionality should work everywhere.

 

I'm not talking about the current design btw. It's been so long since I've touched that :P

[Bigace360 38]

I dont think this should be about IE bashing, I think it should be about trying to find a solution to those that use IE. Even if people know better than to use IE, sometimes using or even installing another browser just isnt an option.

 

I agree, as I created this thread just to figure out why this site wasn't working on IE, not to bash it. As it wasn't helping. If people want to bash IE they should create another thread as it just felt off-topic and not help the conversation at all. I should have to switch browser just because only one site has a hiccup once in a blue moon. I'll stil continue to use IE just as other will continue to use Firefox, chrome, safari, etc.

 

Edit: I think this thread is done as the site isn't acting up anymore and you already stated why the site acted like that on IE a couple of days ago. Now the thread is just off-topic.

Edited June 5, 2012 by bigace

[Marked 197]

I counted just 2 ie bashing posts so i dont know what you two are on about· the rest is good healthy discussion in my opinion· strictly speaking yeah its off topic, but not if you look at the purpose of the off topic rule· if you`re problem is solved and the topic verges into a beneficial discussion thats related to the oringinal post anyway, and in circumstances where the forums are less active than desirable, then personally im happy with that· it doesnt matter much anyway coz the topic is as good as dead·

[Heretic86 25]

Ignorant people are going to get viruses on their computers regardless of what browser they use. IE can be a very secure browser, but at the expense of decreasing all of its functionality.

 

My biggest gripe about IE is that it does not follow W3C standards and they insist on doing everything totally different which makes cross browser compatability a proportional pain in the ass to the size and complexity of a site. When I was hosting websites for a living, that was one of the most common frustrations that people would complain about. I ended up explaining to the same folks over and over again that it wasnt anything to do with the web servers, or their web designers, but some things in IE need to be done differently than they are in other web pages.

 

I dont think it is exceptionally rare for a forum regular to hit up the site while at work where they may not have administrative control over their computers. Not all of us can afford smart phones.

 

Glad to hear you've gotten the issue solved.