Chief 30 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 As I browse through the forums, I have come to the conclusion that the lack of activity is due to there being way to many places to post. There are many things that I feel could be merged. With a smaller area to post in, I feel like people will feel more inclined to post. Right now, its a bit intimidating with how long the forums are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrimsonInferno 35 Report post Posted July 31, 2012 It doesn't have anything to with the size of the forum, though some things could be merged with another in my opinion, its just because traffic is slow. The forum needs to be advertised or something. :( That's what I think, though, so...yea! xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon 55 Report post Posted July 31, 2012 I seldom have anything to say... which is why I seldom post. When I do, I feel it's worthwhile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
isaacsol 10 Report post Posted July 31, 2012 I think it'd be better to hide lesser used forums until they're needed instead of merging them, or putting them into a section that is a hidden category (where you have to click a dropdown to show it) so it is not as cluttered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigace360 38 Report post Posted July 31, 2012 basically what isaacsol and CrimsonInferno said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chief 30 Report post Posted July 31, 2012 Nah, I truly do think that many things could indeed be merged. For example, there is no need to have the Show off section to be seperate from multi-media, as its practically the same. If you would at least hide lesser used forums, that would work too. Haha so that's your diagnosis is it? Hmmm You seem to think I don't know anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marked 197 Report post Posted July 31, 2012 Haha so that's your diagnosis is it? Hmmm You seem to think I don't know anything. Before this starts, don't. :) The forum needs to be advertised or something. I don't think we need to bring traffic into this discussion. The problem with advertising is that I don't believe the site is good enough to stop those users leaving. I've been working on the new site since literally before 2011. I'm working as fast I can. Once the site is in a state where we've got rid of all the bugs, performance issues, etc. then we could advertise and make more attempts at getting traffic. I seldom have anything to say... which is why I seldom post. When I do, I feel it's worthwhile The amount of times I've read this post from you :) I think its an achievement in itself that you're even a lurker here, you've been here from the start. One member isn't going to make a difference really and it comes down the website that should be attracting members to get involved in the community. Clearly there are issues are with this forum, and they're so sever that I started on a new site entirely.. right now, activity is down and that's unfortunate, but I see no other option but to bare through it until the new site is up. Time doesn't permit any other route. Actually I've been planning forum changes for some time and I've got several ideas. Particularly with those bottom 2 categories. So if you guys want to make suggestions in this topic I'll definitely take them into account when I do change the forum structure. I think it'd be better to hide lesser used forums until they're needed instead of merging them, or putting them into a section that is a hidden category (where you have to click a dropdown to show it) so it is not as cluttered. Perhaps a hidden category. Every topic has potential to bring in more traffic from random search queries on google, so we may as well maximize those extra hits. 1 CrimsonInferno reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FranklinX 37 Report post Posted July 31, 2012 I have said this before. I believe we should start all over with the new site. When the new site is launched it will look like an inactive site. A site looking inactive will not attract new members. Visitors will browse and say "no point in posting my game here. Not many people will give me help or reviews." Very few members are active and less members are posting. I believe starting completely new would be very beneficial in the long run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arkbennett 16 Report post Posted July 31, 2012 I'm somewhat inclined to agree with Chief. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chief 30 Report post Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) [removed] On topic, here are a few suggestions for how you could merge a few areas: Merge: Art/Showcase Stories/Lit Multi-Media Merge: Movies/Ent/Media Comics/Manga/Anime Video games should be in the entertainment category. Minecraft should be a sub-forum under video games. That's it for now. There are a few areas I believe could be merged even still, but one step at a time, I suppose. Edited August 1, 2012 by Marked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ForeverZer0 44 Report post Posted July 31, 2012 I tend to agree with Chief, although I am not sure its effect on traffic on the site. It would make it easier to navigate, and much more tidy looking. On the other hand, if this site is to be replaced in the near future, it doesn't really make much difference either way. I personally don't "browse" the forum as it is. I am more of a "replier" than a topic starter, so looking down the list of topics where there has been recent traffic suffices for me, personally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigace360 38 Report post Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) To be honest I don't know why Minecraft has a it's forum anyways. Why does it have more priority then Game consoles that use to have there own forums before converged (Nintendo, Xbox, PS) just because 3-5 people were talking about minecraft. Also not many post in that forum anyways so it should either be a sub-forum or converged. Edited July 31, 2012 by bigace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marked 197 Report post Posted August 1, 2012 @Chief & Kirhi: I removed your discussion. It doesn't matter who started it, both of you made comments to provoke the other. Again, just don't, if you have problems with each other then deal it with in PM. Though that wasn't so bad, it just doesn't need to be in this topic. To be honest I don't know why Minecraft has a it's forum anyways. Why does it have more priority then Game consoles that use to have there own forums before converged (Nintendo, Xbox, PS) just because 3-5 people were talking about minecraft. Also not many post in that forum anyways so it should either be a sub-forum or converged. Yeah despite not like minecraft at all, I made it because it was so popular. Some of the topics in there are a decent source of google traffic coz so many like minecradt. And if you like minecraft, there's a good chance this forum has something for you. Also, 30 topics in the minecraft forum compared to 36 in video games? That's close. I am more of a "replier" than a topic starter, so looking down the list of topics where there has been recent traffic suffices for me, personally. You actually look down the list of forums? I thought no one did that and just relied on the recent posts hook. I have said this before. I believe we should start all over with the new site. When the new site is launched it will look like an inactive site. A site looking inactive will not attract new members. Visitors will browse and say "no point in posting my game here. Not many people will give me help or reviews." Very few members are active and less members are posting. I believe starting completely new would be very beneficial in the long run. I disagree that it will beneficial in the long run. Sure there's always hype with a new forum, but then that quickly dies down. We're not the most active right now, but I disagree the site will look inactive when the new site goes live. Yes we have issues retaining members and turning out traffic into active posters, that's part of the point of the new site. We would lose all traffic. With enterbrain's english forum, any new forum for rpg maker would die. However we're not all about the rpg makers anymore. And even if it was beneficial, its out of the question. I'd never do it. What is this site without its history? I think its very important. Without it you cannot see the contributions of certain members such as rmpxu legends. You can see everything kiriashi had done here, and if we started again it would be like he never existed. I guess I'm sentimental. It would also kill all of our traffic from search engines. To be broad, the plan is to create a desirable website (that skips an awful lot amount of steps), and then send emails to our the subscribers to the gdu release, and a bulk email to all of our members (which i estimate about 8,000 will receive the email). So if the site has succeeded in getting rid of these issues rmxpu currently has, those members should stay, and hopefully things will build strongly from there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken Messiah 20 Report post Posted August 1, 2012 I agree with RKOFRANKLIN, if we were to advertise it should be for GDU, since this website won't be used in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FranklinX 37 Report post Posted August 1, 2012 @Chief & Kirhi: I removed your discussion. It doesn't matter who started it, both of you made comments to provoke the other. Again, just don't, if you have problems with each other then deal it with in PM. Though that wasn't so bad, it just doesn't need to be in this topic. Yeah despite not like minecraft at all, I made it because it was so popular. Some of the topics in there are a decent source of google traffic coz so many like minecradt. And if you like minecraft, there's a good chance this forum has something for you. Also, 30 topics in the minecraft forum compared to 36 in video games? That's close. You actually look down the list of forums? I thought no one did that and just relied on the recent posts hook. I disagree that it will beneficial in the long run. Sure there's always hype with a new forum, but then that quickly dies down. We're not the most active right now, but I disagree the site will look inactive when the new site goes live. Yes we have issues retaining members and turning out traffic into active posters, that's part of the point of the new site. We would lose all traffic. With enterbrain's english forum, any new forum for rpg maker would die. However we're not all about the rpg makers anymore. And even if it was beneficial, its out of the question. I'd never do it. What is this site without its history? I think its very important. Without it you cannot see the contributions of certain members such as rmpxu legends. You can see everything kiriashi had done here, and if we started again it would be like he never existed. I guess I'm sentimental. It would also kill all of our traffic from search engines. To be broad, the plan is to create a desirable website (that skips an awful lot amount of steps), and then send emails to our the subscribers to the gdu release, and a bulk email to all of our members (which i estimate about 8,000 will receive the email). So if the site has succeeded in getting rid of these issues rmxpu currently has, those members should stay, and hopefully things will build strongly from there. GDU will offer great features. Opening it to all game developers is the key to its potential success. Your refusal to let go of the past may be GDU's down fall. I rarely join any forums with little activity unless it is a brand new forum. Many people feel this way. When they see GDU filled with inactive threads and members then they will be reculanted to join. You don't have to delete the forum's history. You could make an achieve. I also look down at the list of forums. If you plan to get more active members then the post list won't be as useful. There will be new posts pushed down the post list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 10 Report post Posted August 2, 2012 Slightly Off Topic: Where are the Rules, on this and the new site. This be mutiny?! Do we have anarchy now? Back On Topic: Consolidation wouldn't be that bad. The amount of topics should be tied to the forum population. Feels like we've got the people of some small town, wandering around new york city or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigace360 38 Report post Posted August 2, 2012 the rules for the site is at the top of the page, first on the horizontal list, or were you talking about something else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marked 197 Report post Posted August 2, 2012 the rules for the site is at the top of the page, first on the horizontal list, or were you talking about something else. I think he was talking 'bout the new site which yeah, doesn't have a page for rules at the moment. GDU will offer great features. Opening it to all game developers is the key to its potential success. Your refusal to let go of the past may be GDU's down fall. I rarely join any forums with little activity unless it is a brand new forum. Many people feel this way. When they see GDU filled with inactive threads and members then they will be reculanted to join. You don't have to delete the forum's history. You could make an achieve. I also look down at the list of forums. If you plan to get more active members then the post list won't be as useful. There will be new posts pushed down the post list. It's not a refusal to let go of the past at all. Just because I admitted to being sentimental doesn't mean that's the reason for my decision. You also just reiterated and I've already replied, so you've made no counter argument. Even if what I mentioned in my last post were to fail, I don't think the best way to counteract a perception of inactivity is to remove everything. All past topics are buried in pages, so the number of topics are just numbers. If anything it gives the impression of activity. Perhaps you think no one ever posts here? I don't think its as bad as you think. It's not great, as I've described above, but its a fine place to build from. If GDU is to have a downfall I don't think that will be it. I also look down at the list of forums. If you plan to get more active members then the post list won't be as useful. There will be new posts pushed down the post list. Yeah but what's better for activity, a recent posts or no recent posts list? I've experimented with removing it. I also rewrote the recent posts to allow the ability of loading more and an Ajax request pulls the list down. Furthermore I've planned for more than a year to create a dashboard to bring up topics/posts that would be of interest to the member (ie you let the system what you're interested in via tags and content with these tags show up) and also topics the member has posted in or started would show up. The basic idea is to ensure as much relevant content to the specific user is delivered and easily found by the user. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chief 30 Report post Posted August 2, 2012 Did you read my suggestions about merging? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marked 197 Report post Posted August 3, 2012 Yes, I think they're spot on actually. I never thought about making minecraft a sub-forum of video games. Actually, I willfully didn't even learn what minecraft is. Probably just another thing for people to get addicted to and waste more of their lives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ForeverZer0 44 Report post Posted August 3, 2012 Yes, I think they're spot on actually. I never thought about making minecraft a sub-forum of video games. Actually, I willfully didn't even learn what minecraft is. Probably just another thing for people to get addicted to and waste more of their lives. QFT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marked 197 Report post Posted August 4, 2012 ...google won't tell me what that means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ForeverZer0 44 Report post Posted August 4, 2012 Sorry, it means "quoted for truth". :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathmoverz24 2 Report post Posted August 4, 2012 speaking of minecraft sections. does minecraft has a main channel on youtube? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marked 197 Report post Posted August 24, 2012 Ok, made a start on these. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
