WiiU - Will it be good?

[Leon 55]

This holiday season, the WiiU debuts in November. The question is, is it worth the price tag of $300?

Maybe we should break it down...

 

Timing:

In a nutshell, Nintendo and developers have both said it is slightly more powerful than the 360/PS3. Now, my question is... why only slightly?

 

There has all ready been announced the next XBox is going to be unveiled, and possibly, released next year, and although Sony said the PS3 will be supported til 2014-2015, that doesn't mean they won't release a new system. I mean, they supported the PS2 until just a year or two ago.

 

With these new systems around the corner, it would have been more ideal for them to add more power behind their system, or at least more HDD. With the market on Indie games going into full swing, Add-ons becoming popular and patches always being released; having an onboard memory of a mere 32GB is risky when you can buy a 360 or PS3 cheaper with more memory. I only hope it is upgradable.

 

 

Launch Line-up:

The WiiU has a launch line up of 23 games:

• Call of Duty: Black Ops II
  
• Skylanders Giants
  
• TRANSFORMERS PRIME
  
• Wipeout 3
  
• Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
  
• EA SPORTS FIFA Soccer 13
  
• TEKKEN TAG TOURNAMENT 2 Wii U Edition
  
• New Super Mario Bros. U
  
• NINJA GAIDEN 3: Razor’s Edge
  
• Nintendo Land
  
• SiNG PARTY
  
• Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
  
• WARRIORS OROCHI 3 Hyper
  
• Darksiders II
  
• Assassin’s Creed III
  
• ESPN Sports Connection
  
• Just Dance 4
  
• Rabbids® Land
  
• Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013
  
• ZombiU
  
• Scribblenauts Unlimited
  
• Game Party Champions
  
• Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition
  

As you can see, a good number of them, such as Darksiders 2, ACIII, and Arkham City, will have all ready been released on other consoles a good 2 weeks to a year before release on the WiiU. Many of the others will be multi-platform releases, and others are exclusives. Unless many of these exclusives catch your eye (ZombiU does look interesting...), you may as well stick with your 360/PS3.

 

 

Peripherals:

Ok, the game pad with the touch screen is the big item here... but did you know in the U.S., they don't plan on letting you buy an extra touch-screen paddle? But in Japan, you can buy one for approx $170 USD.

 

Now, it is a cool thing, an extra screen and all, but Sony and Microsoft both had an answer to this. with the 'Magic Screen' (I think it was called), you can control your 360 (in the future, not yet released) and the PS3 has the Vita, which they've all ready started implementing remote play of PS3 titles (God of War and ICO are a couple titles)

 

Last thing to really include is the fact the WiiU is region-locked, which is quite sad for many fans.

 

 

Overall, the Wii U does look like a great system, but it seems like it could fall into two very big traps:

The 'VITA' trap: few decent games and people get bored quick. (I've beaten Uncharted, PvZ, and Hot Shots Golf 3 times each). I can honestly see people buying this for just LoZ, Metroid, Super Smash, and Mario... but is it worth buying for just 3-5 franchises?

 

The ENEMY trap: With the new XBox right around the corner, and a Sony console sure to follow, this system will probably fall into the same category as the Wii. Outdated quick, few decent exclusives, and the controllers being too awkward for the hard-core gamer.

 

I hope I am wrong when I say I think within 2 years the Wii U will flop, mainly because I was a die-hard Nintendo fan (even have a LoZ 3DS ^_^ that sits... with no good games....), but I don't have any high hopes for this system... I can honestly see hard-core gamers passing this up unless to buy it strictly for the afore mentioned franchises.

 

I don't hope to start a 'fan-boy' or 'console' war... I just know people always look at the good only, but you must look at all sides of a debate before deciding anything. I hope this helps people understand more about the system and its competition.

[ShinGamix 1]

Where are all the NIntendo games like Zelda and Metroid???

-Line uo sucks ass! Nintendo isnt trying to be Nintendo with this line up.

[madanchi 18]

Good argument, but a couple things I want to say.

 

Games:

Considering it's already got many big developers backing it, with a good line-up of games for launch it only emphasises that there will be more and good quality games coming to Wii U. I do agree with you about the games that have already been out on other platforms for a long time, so really those ones are for people who havn't played it yet and want to on the Wii U.

 

Copies:

Similar methods have been played with to achieve a Wii U-like system but in reality, they don't work that well. The ps3 with psvita thing wont succeed, you would have to buy 2 seperate consoles to use as 1, that's a problem right there. Then there's the situation with Tablets trying to achieve the same thing, which in my opinion, is stupid because the tablet would have to match the consoles hardware. Also it has no physical buttons which a lot of gamers hate.

[Leon 55]

with the Games argument, I can kind of see your point. But many of those games that are being rereleased on the Wii U are sequels targeted for people who either enjoy the franchise and hard core gamers, and odds are, they've played. I can, however see them being replayed on the Wii U.

 

 

 

As for the Copies argument, PS3 does have a huge uphill battle. Microsoft, not so much. Either way, I think the whole idea of the second screen will flop as hard as motion controls.

 

The last thing i didnt touch base on, was achievements/trophies. Many gamers, especially hardcore gamers, actually enjoy having the trophy system for bragging rights, but Nintendo decided against it.

[madanchi 18]

As for the Copies argument, PS3 does have a huge uphill battle. Microsoft, not so much. Either way, I think the whole idea of the second screen will flop as hard as motion controls.

I think it will succeed, as did dual screen systems like the DS which then whent onto the 3DS. Everyone knows how to use a tablet, look at two screens and play games so I don't see any reason why it should flop.

[ShinGamix 1]

It should do good with NintendoTV, ability to control the tv and lights from the handheld controller screen, but How many times has Ninendo had a launch without a good Zelda Title. None that caught my attention. There were a few but many Nintendo-fans just follow Zelda, Mario, and Metroid. These three titles sell Nintendo more than any third party game.

[Polraudio 122]

I know my family will get a WiiU but it wont last long just like the wii didnt. it took a good month before they quit playing games on it and only used it for netflix. Even new games bought only got played for a day.

 

So i can say the same will mostly happen the same with the WiiU. Its a short lived console.

I still say Gamecube and Snes was the best consoles they made.

 

I never liked games for Nintendo tbh. Only games i cared for was LOZ and but i gave up on those because they all feel like the same exact game over and over. Once Mario went 3D i lost interest.

 

And everything Nintendo feels like a kids console. Must be the graphics style.

 

Will i get the WiiU for my self? No. I hate motion gaming. I like the hardcore controller, keyboard and mouse style of gaming.

 

I guess im to much of a hardcore/classic gamer to get into these new consoles/games.

[madanchi 18]

I'm a pc gamer full stop, but I do lvoe seeing new consoles. I play new console for a few months then it gathers dust, no matter what console it is, hell I even got a new ps3 game the other month and havn't even touched it. Not even once.... Consoles are just not me anymore, but I still have a soft spot for Ninendo, dam them, dam them for having such a loyal fanbase...

[Bigace360 38]

Although I will probably still get it, compared to Xbox and PS3, the WiiU is garabage. Xbox360 came out 7 years ago and is still way more advance then this money grabbing machine. I mean technology is so advance right now that the Xbox and PS3 is already out dated and Nintendo is going to go create something thats even more outdated? I guess if you don't do your reseach you just be suckered into buying some shitty system that should of just been there new 3DS. Still wondering when there going stop being cheap with there pokemon color games and start being creative. Shit I can think of a million ideals for a future pokemon game on the Wii, but since I don't work for Nintendo or Gamefreak, I guess I'll have to suffer. Besides that rant, When the Nintendo wants to make a game system that is better then Microsoft and Sony tell me, then I'll be exicited otherwise I'll just be playing my gameboy 3ds which still has no games.

[Noob Saibot 38]

I know my family will get a WiiU but it wont last long just like the wii didnt. it took a good month before they quit playing games on it and only used it for netflix. Even new games bought only got played for a day.

 

I gave my Wii to my parents for x-mas. It now collects dust. I'll probably buy it back from them, but I am looking forward to the wii U. It's getting a lot of hate, but so did the Wii.

 

 

Although I will probably still get it, compared to Xbox and PS3, the WiiU is garabage. Xbox360 came out 7 years ago and is still way more advance then this money grabbing machine. I mean technology is so advance right now that the Xbox and PS3 is already out dated and Nintendo is going to go create something thats even more outdated?

 

When compared to a PC yes they are always outdated so your argument makes no real sense. Console wise none of them are out dated. Hell Sony is releasing another thin version of the PS3 which is more money grabbing then the Wii U. Plus with no real specs of the so called next gen (720 and PS4) the consoles are not outdated just behind in releasing a new 'next gen.' Many gamers fail to realize that a brand new console like the PS4 in todays economy ( at least for the US) would not do very well. Hence why the Vita did not sell well either in the US. Nintendo is now on equal ground with the current PS3 & 360 not outdated.

 

~Keven

Edited October 9, 2012 by Noob Saibot

[madanchi 18]

Although I will probably still get it, compared to Xbox and PS3, the WiiU is garabage. Xbox360 came out 7 years ago and is still way more advance then this money grabbing machine. I mean technology is so advance right now that the Xbox and PS3 is already out dated and Nintendo is going to go create something thats even more outdated? I guess if you don't do your reseach you just be suckered into buying some shitty system that should of just been there new 3DS. Still wondering when there going stop being cheap with there pokemon color games and start being creative. Shit I can think of a million ideals for a future pokemon game on the Wii, but since I don't work for Nintendo or Gamefreak, I guess I'll have to suffer. Besides that rant, When the Nintendo wants to make a game system that is better then Microsoft and Sony tell me, then I'll be exicited otherwise I'll just be playing my gameboy 3ds which still has no games.

Sorry but your post is full of fail and factless, I cannot comment any further on such a weak argument.

[Bigace360 38]

Sorry but your post is full of fail and factless, I cannot comment any further on such a weak

argument.

Dont get butthurt over the internet, if you don't like my opinion then thats a YOU problem. Clearly

you can't comprehend my argument or you wouldn't of post such lousy post. Ignoring anything from you

this point on in the thread because you sound like a douch.

 

When compared to a PC yes they are always outdated so your argument makes no real sense. Console wise

none of them are out dated. Hell Sony is releasing another thin version of the PS3 which is more money

grabbing then the Wii U. Plus with no real specs of the so called next gen (720 and PS4) the consoles

are not outdated just behind in releasing a new 'next gen.' Many gamers fail to realize that a brand

new console like the PS4 in todays economy ( at least for the US) would not do very well. Hence why

the Vita did not sell well either in the US. Nintendo is now on equal ground with the current PS3 &

360 not outdated.

~Keven

 

1) The latest game systems are basically computers:

1. you can browse the internet
   
2. watch movies
   
3. play music
   
4. store files
   
5. buy things online
   
6. Play online games
   
7. take it apart and buy modded pieces (though you doing this)
   
8. Custom firmware (CFW) so you can created your own layout of your game system.
   
9. jaibreak the system (though this messes up updates and voids the warrenty)
   

 

The only difference is that unlike an actually CPU or laptop your limited to what the console was made

for, playing video games, so your point is moot in itself.

 

2)i meant technology in general the game system are outdated (and no I'm not going state which

technology google it if your curious). Doesn't mean I'm not playing them and no I'm not going to go

out and buy a new system in the next year or so just because it came out.

 

3) that wasn't the main focus of my post. Nothing in my post stated that Sony and Microsoft should

come with a new system. In fact there fine as they are. I stated that this is Nintendo's crappy

attempt to milk more money out of there dumbass customers by realeasing a outdated system that is more

outdated then the already popular outdated Xbox and PS3.

 

And thats where you people fail to see my point. My point is WiiU is bound to fail because everything

it can do, the Xbox and PS3 can already do better. Why go out and buy WiiU when the xbox kinect does

just as well and same with the PS3 wand. Oh ya, it finally got an HD screen, but oh wait thats almost

outdated aswell since most things run on blu-ray(PS3) now. The Xbox and PS3 have also had several

upgraded models (as you stated as well that a new PS3 is coming out) that put the Wii U is further

into the trash bin.

[Noob Saibot 38]

1) The latest game systems are basically computers:

1. you can browse the internet
    
   
2. watch movies
    
   
3. play music
    
   
4. store files
    
   
5. buy things online
    
   
6. Play online games
    
   
7. take it apart and buy modded pieces (though you doing this)
    
   
8. Custom firmware (CFW) so you can created your own layout of your game system.
    
   
9. jaibreak the system (though this messes up updates and voids the warrenty)
   

The only difference is that unlike an actually CPU or laptop your limited to what the console was made

for, playing video games, so your point is moot in itself.

 

I build PCs and Mod Console please do some research before sticking to your guns on the ridiculous stuff you just said.

 

 

2)i meant technology in general the game system are outdated (and no I'm not going state which

technology google it if your curious). Doesn't mean I'm not playing them and no I'm not going to go

out and buy a new system in the next year or so just because it came out.

 

LoL! You serious...

 

 

3) that wasn't the main focus of my post. Nothing in my post stated that Sony and Microsoft should

come with a new system. In fact there fine as they are. I stated that this is Nintendo's crappy

attempt to milk more money out of there dumbass customers by realeasing a outdated system that is more

outdated then the already popular outdated Xbox and PS3.

 

Why are you getting so defensive? You said Nintendo was doing it only for money...so I pointed out something Sony was doing. My point? They all do it, you said nothing new!

 

 

And thats where you people fail to see my point. My point is WiiU is bound to fail because everything

it can do, the Xbox and PS3 can already do better. Why go out and buy WiiU when the xbox kinect does

just as well and same with the PS3 wand. Oh ya, it finally got an HD screen, but oh wait thats almost

outdated aswell since most things run on blu-ray(PS3) now. The Xbox and PS3 have also had several

upgraded models (as you stated as well that a new PS3 is coming out) that put the Wii U is further

into the trash bin.

 

No only PS3 games run on Blu-Ray in the gaming world...this is nothing people do not already know. However all it does is allow more space on a disc and minor better HD. Again try doing some research the new PS3 is only thinner and nothing new about it hardware wise. Which has been mentioned in almost every article you can find talking about it.

 

~Keven

Edited October 10, 2012 by Noob Saibot

[Arkbennett 16]

Not gonna lie. I called out the original Wii's failure shortly after Brawl's release.

 

Last time I heard, the HDD was originally going to be 32 Mbs. I'm skeptical of that decision. I was told that you can install other drives into the console very easily. But that type of function seems somewhat beyond the casual audiance.

Installs are gonna eat 32 Mbs for breakfast.

 

I agree with Lizzie. WiiU will become outdated again in the next few years, that is a very strong point.

 

I suspect the WiiU will flop, but will have more longetivity than the original Wii.

I don't see a point in getting the WiiU now because there aren't that many exclusives (Which is really the only reason to buy it) at this moment. And in the next year or two, when/if they finally release some, I'll be focused on getting the new Playstation.

[Bigace360 38]

I build PCs and Mod Console please do some research before sticking to your guns on the ridiculous stuff you just said.

I've done the samething to my PS2, xbox and Ipod, (don't need to mod my PS3, fine as it is) so your point. Don't need to do research on common sense.

 

LoL! You serious...

Ya I'm serious. You serious think that PS3 and Xbox is up-to-date with all the technology changes in the world? Technology as changed a lot since they came out and like you said the new PS3 is just slimmer, and my have more memory probably wrong, which isn't an improvement at all.

 

Why are you getting so defensive? You said Nintendo was doing it only for money...so I pointed out something Sony was doing. My point? They all do it, you said nothing new!

Actually PS3, while it did cost arm to buy unlike all nintendo devices, at least it was useful. But yes I'll agree that Sony is pushing it buy releasing a new PS3 with nothing new, when there was nothing wrong with the previous one. To be honest they might be on the same level of cheapness, One system does nothing but look slimmer and the other one just doesn't need to be released. I think nintendo needs to worry about making better quality games then a new system, because like you said in this economy their not going to sell a lot especally when the other two do better.

 

No only PS3 games run on Blu-Ray in the gaming world...this is nothing people do not already know. However all it does is allow more space on a disc and minor better HD. Again try doing some research the new PS3 is only thinner and nothing new about it hardware wise. Which has been mentioned in almost every article you can find talking about it.

 

Don't need to do research on this, I just wrote to much on that part and I apologies.

[Noob Saibot 38]

I've done the samething to my PS2, xbox and Ipod, (don't need to mod my PS3, fine as it is) so your point. Don't need to do research on common sense.

 

See, I was talking about real research not what you think you know and pass your opinion as a fact. Not so common now...

 

Ya I'm serious. You serious think that PS3 and Xbox is up-to-date with all the technology changes in the world? Technology as changed a lot since they came out and like you said the new PS3 is just slimmer, and my have more memory probably wrong, which isn't an improvement at all.

 

LoL! Now who is stating stuff that is common sense. Any one who is techy knows most electronics become outdated a year later. Everyone knows the Wii U is Nintendo catching up because they are behind. However, in the gaming industry until a new console is released they are now not more outdated then the PS3 or 360. However, tech wise yes they are behind, but so is Playstation & Microsoft Studios. So your argument about Wii U is null and void.

 

Actually PS3, while it did cost arm to buy unlike all nintendo devices, at least it was useful. But yes I'll agree that Sony is pushing it buy releasing a new PS3 with nothing new, when there was nothing wrong with the previous one. To be honest they might be on the same level of cheapness, One system does nothing but look slimmer and the other one just doesn't need to be released. I think nintendo needs to worry about making better quality games then a new system, because like you said in this economy their not going to sell a lot especally when the other two do better.

 

You say better quality games, but fail to realize an HD system could give them that edge graphic wise like the PS3 or 360. As for game play and story they all (Sony, Nintendo, & Microsoft) could do with better quality in this area.

 

Don't need to do research on this, I just wrote to much on that part and I apologies.

 

Okay...

 

~Keven

Edited October 10, 2012 by Noob Saibot

[madanchi 18]

Dont get butthurt over the internet, if you don't like my opinion then thats a YOU problem. Clearly

you can't comprehend my argument or you wouldn't of post such lousy post. Ignoring anything from you

this point on in the thread because you sound like a douch.

Sorry that my post was harsh and now in my present state I probably shouldn't have posted it at all, but I didn't think you would find it that offensive. So I'd like it if you countered my future posts without hurling nasty insults at me as I would never do that to you or anyone else here on the forums.

[Knuckles 1]

32GBs not MBs... Anyway I am not getting a Wii U any time soon. Maybe when there is a large library of games available for it but until then I am sticking to PC-only gaming. Also I grew weary of the New Super Mario Bros. games.

[ShinGamix 1]

Well Nintendo is always afraid to pull out there big guns over and over on one console. Why can I not see two Zelda's on one console anymore?