zahraa 26 Report post Posted August 16, 2013 Hi everybody. Yesterday something awful happened to me.I got that a company stole my idea for a RPG story.My idea doesn't have copyright so it's so hard to prove that. :cry: I'm sure you understand me.I can't sleep,I can't eat or drink,I can't continue making my game... I just wanted to share my pain.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Polraudio 122 Report post Posted August 16, 2013 We are essentially running out of ideas anyways, so the chances of someone coming up with the same idea are very high. I highly doubt a company would even bother coming on this site(or other rm sites) to steal ideas. Theres been many times i thought someone stole my idea but they didn't. Didn't stop me from continuing cause my games different even if its the same idea. I wouldn't even worry about it. Look how many games are alike now days. GTA, Saints row, etc.. Its not like they are going to sue you. Even if you make a commercial game. Either way i would say go with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zahraa 26 Report post Posted August 16, 2013 @bigace: This picture is so funny,you made me laugh!Thank you. :) @Polraudio:I didn't posted my game in this site,I posted it at www.amaranthia.com.I guess companies check each other's sites to figure out what's new...I don't know...Thank you anyway,Your post made me feel better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dolarmak 23 Report post Posted August 16, 2013 @bigace: This picture is so funny,you made me laugh!Thank you. :) @Polraudio:I didn't posted my game in this site,I posted it at www.amaranthia.com.I guess companies check each other's sites to figure out what's new...I don't know...Thank you anyway,Your post made me feel better. I think it's a little arrogant to think that your idea was stolen. Ideas are a dime a dozen and even if the idea is similar the delivery will always be different. On top of that Amaranthia isn't that big a site even in the rm world. I doubt gaming companies bother looking through thousands of forum topics just to find story ideas. Every one in the game industry has 50 ideas on the back burner just waiting for the opportunity to bring it up in a strategy session. I hope you're not so weak willed that you'd give up on your dream game just because some one has something similar. Pick yourself up, look at what you've accomplished and get back at it. Be proud of what you have and ignore what they are doing, and strive to make yours better! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evalloc 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2013 Well Dolarmak, it isn't arrogant that someone feels like their idea was stolen. Zahraa is crushed because he feels as if his idea was taken from him and I can't blame him! I've been writing, sketching, and just imagining the possibilities of game since I first sat down and played Sonic the Hedgehog. Sure we've all came a long way since then, and we've all felt as if our ideas were close to anothers and just saw that dream crushed. Well I say continue making your dream Zahraa! Don't give up and send me a copy! I'd love to play it sometime! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dolarmak 23 Report post Posted August 17, 2013 I say this as I say the same thing to my writer friends (and what professional writers tell every one) when they see the same thing happen to them. They say they posted their idea on a forum or a social media site and then get all distraught when they see a big name has the same idea as them. It's unlikely that they stole the idea, it is a bit arrogant to think that at this stage in your life with the experience you have that you're worth stealing from. Sure it's painful to think some one else had the same idea but think of it this way, they are a big company or experienced writer who had the same idea, clearly it must be a good idea, so take it and make what you can of it. Don't get all weepy and quit, that's the wrong answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evalloc 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2013 Of course quitting is the wrong answer! You can never give up on you dream, big or small. Life is to short to never finish what you start. Trust me, I know. I have a stack of notebooks FILLED with drawings and short little segments of ideas. And another thing is a little arrogance never hurt anyone. If Zahraa feels like they stole her idea, she feels like they stole it. You cannot change that, no matter what you say. I've felt the same way before, sitting down and thinking "Oh this would be an awesome idea!" and a week, or a month, or even a year later there it is, someone else had the same thought. But what she needs to remember is that if someone else had the same idea, or if they actually stole it, it was seen as a grand idea to them! So she can still feel proud in her ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marked 197 Report post Posted August 17, 2013 You don't really copyright ideas, you copyright expressions. With you think about, a plot of a movie can be played out in many ways. If I gave you a paragraph of the plot of the hunger games, or avatar, you could tell me that is the plot to several different movies. Copyright protects the expression. EG what is the plot of.. Boy has horrible upbringing. When boy reaches a certain age, finds out that his real parents were different to what he imagines, and he is removed from that home and placed in a ‘better’ environment. He then gets sucked into a war It's unlikely that they stole the idea, it is a bit arrogant to think that at this stage in your life with the experience you have that you're worth stealing from. I agree its unlikely. It's not arrogant to think a company stole from you because if you're hanging around this forum you're no one. I bet they do search through forums like these for ideas, why not? In terms of ideas, we're all on similar level. You can sum up most of the largest games plots in a few sentences, even a child could give you a great idea for a game. She's not being arrogant but if she was, who cares? Also, if you want to beat a copyright charge you must prove that you used a different method to reach a similar result. Since we're talking about a plot, it would be very difficult to ever bring a successful copyright claim against someone for a small written unpublished plot. But you can put copyright on anything, especially written work, there's no system of registration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zahraa 26 Report post Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) Hey guys! What are you talking about? arrogant?!!!How can i feel arrogant?!Every time I open RMXP,I feel so down and confused,I don't care even if the biggest company ever stole my idea,I just want to bring it back.It's like a thief came to your house and stole everything,You'll never think about : He came to my house and stole everything because I had many valuable things in my home!and you'll never get proud of it! You just want to bring back your stolen things. @Evalloc:I agree with many parts of your words. BTW,I'll send a copy of my game for you when I finish it. @Marked:Do you...Do you mean i can bring back my idea?! :excited: Please please explain more for me...I didn't get what you say,You know my English is too bad...Please tell me if there is any way. Edited August 17, 2013 by zahraa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dolarmak 23 Report post Posted August 17, 2013 Hey guys! What are you talking about? arrogant?!!!How can i feel arrogant?!Every time I open RMXP,I feel so down and confused,I don't care even if the biggest company ever stole my idea,I just want to bring it back.It's like a thief came to your house and stole everything,You'll never think about : He came to my house and stole everything because I had many valuable things in my home!and you'll never get proud of it! You just want to bring back your stolen things. @Evalloc:I agree with many parts of your words. BTW,I'll send a copy of my game for you when I finish it. @Marked:Do you...Do you mean i can bring back my idea?! :excited: Please please explain more for me...I didn't get what you say,You know my English is too bad...Please tell me if there is any way. it might just be bad translation, but you sound as it they came into your mind and plucked the idea from you brain and now you've lost idea all together. You still know what you planned to do with the game and your idea may be similar but why would you be confused as how you proceed? Just forget about the company, let them do what they will do because there is no way you can stop them and keep doing what you were doing because there is no way they can stop you. Just because the ideas are the same the outcome, the finished product will be totally different. There is no way for you to stop them from making their game, you'll just have to deal with it. Make yours, don't get discouraged. Look, i know you feel like your idea is special, but lets be honest here there is a 99% chance that everything you planned to do was already thought up by at least 30 people. Its the same way in writing books or making movies, or even art. We're at the point where so much stuff is out there that "IDEAS" have all been used up. We copy from other authors ideas in our stories but the IDEA doesn't matter. What matters is the PRODUCT. Unless they stole word for word your plot and character development and character names then you can't say they stole it. And understand this, the game industry is a creative industry. That means every one who gets into them has dozens if not hundreds of ideas of what to make for games. I know a few developers from AAA studios (Ubisoft Montreal) and they don't need idea people, every one in the company is an idea person, from the programmers to the writers, the level editors to the artists. Each member in their team has 30 ideas and they bounce them off each other until they find something the investors like. They don't need to go into small indy game communities to steal ideas from people, their entire team is a creative mind blow of creative energy. This even applies to mid sized companies. Every one is there because they love to make games and have tons of ideas about what the perfect game is. That is why I say it is arrogant to think any big company would steal your idea, we here at rmu and amanthian and other indy game forum are so small in insignificant in the internet that it can only be arrogance to think you're so special that a top tier game company would directly steal your idea. Get off your high horse and settle down to earth a little, and get working on your project. Also I don't believe there is any legal action you could possibly do because neither you or the company that 'stole your idea' have a product yet. You can NOT pursue legal action over an idea. Now if they stole your Rpgmaker data and planned to make a game with your content you'd have a case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zahraa 26 Report post Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) @Dolarmak: I don't know...I'm so confuse right now.I just want to think about it.If they didn't stole my idea and if I think this way It's not THAT unbearable but if they really did it then it'll be really hard for me,In this case every time I want to continue my work I tell myself : You worked hard for about a year and 5 month to make a very unique game but now what happens?You can't even protect your idea.What if someone make a similar game to yours when you finish it,You can't even protect your game in that case... EDIT: Well I thought about what you guys said and i have to say that all of you are right,I won't give up now and i don't let it go.I should learn to be stronger. :) I'll get back what's mine and nobody can stop me because it's "me". Let's go back to work!The best game ever is waiting for me,So goodbye for now! :wave: Edited August 18, 2013 by zahraa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dolarmak 23 Report post Posted August 18, 2013 EDIT: Well I thought about what you guys said and i have to say that all of you are right,I won't give up now and i don't let it go.I should learn to be stronger. :) I'll get back what's mine and nobody can stop me because it's "me". Let's go back to work!The best game ever is waiting for me,So goodbye for now! :wave: Thats the spirit! keep it up, and do your best so that way you don't regret anything :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites